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        <title>Re: Check WCF in .NET Framework 3.0</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41283</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Actually, both Java and .Net can interoperate with mainframes, though without WCF and with some 3rd-party help:...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 13:52:48 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 13:52:48 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Feb 2, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Yev Bronshteyn</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: J2EE based systems are potentially unstable</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41283</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>If you are an enterprise J2EE developer you have never developed an OO app in your life.  </blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 29 Jul 2006 14:24:38 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sat, 29 Jul 2006 14:24:38 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jul 29, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Hardy Henneberg</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: will an apology be forthcoming?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41283</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[an apology is NEVER forthcoming....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 05:55:53 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 05:55:53 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jul 21, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>B C</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: J2EE based systems are potentially unstable</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41283</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[bullshit

If you are an enterprise J2EE developer you have never developed an OO app in your life.  How dare you blame the call stack.

Grow up man!  Java apps arent OO!]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 05:45:34 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 05:45:34 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jul 21, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>B C</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>2</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: J2EE based systems are potentially unstable</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41283</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I do take full responsibility. You chose to quote me out of context. Why I'm not sure, especially when the original context is there for all to see. You've done this on several occasions, which I chose to ignore. You have also done the same...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 14:08:44 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 14:08:44 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jul 20, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Steve Zara</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: J2EE based systems are potentially unstable</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41283</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I am making a serious point here, although I admit I was being deliberately confrontational in this case. You often put forward sweeping statements with little evidence as if they were fact</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 07:21:25 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 07:21:25 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jul 20, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Paul Beckford</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: J2EE based systems are potentially unstable</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41283</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>Speaking to a friend about this stuff over a beer last night and we came to the same conclusion you have. Software science stopped sometime in the mid seventies or eighties, and since then what we have had is...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 06:42:04 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 06:42:04 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jul 20, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Steve Zara</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: J2EE based systems are potentially unstable</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41283</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>Speaking to a friend about this stuff over a beer last night and we came to the same conclusion you have. Software science stopped sometime in the mid seventies or eighties, and since then what we have had is techno-marketing...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 11:45:14 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 11:45:14 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jul 19, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Paul Beckford</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: J2EE based systems are potentially unstable</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41283</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Speaking to a friend about this stuff over a beer last night and we came to the same conclusion you have. Software science stopped sometime in the mid seventies or eighties, and since then what we have had is techno-marketing mascarading as...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 10:56:24 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 19, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Steve Zara</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>4</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: J2EE based systems are potentially unstable</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41283</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<b>+1</b>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 01:12:54 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 01:12:54 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jul 19, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Paul Beckford</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>5</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>J2EE based systems are potentially unstable</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41283</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA["For some unknown reason our J2EE system crashed last night. It has been running without any problems for months, but suddenly it broke down. The only unsual thing we noticed was one of the backend systems having longer reponse time than usual (a batch...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 18:13:05 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 18, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Hardy Henneberg</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>9</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: Java dead, news at 11 ..</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41283</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>So many final death blows. Sooner or later it has to be fatal, right?<br><br>Peace,<br><br>Cameron Purdy<br><a href="http://www.tangosol.com/coherence.jsp">Tangosol Coherence</a>: Clustered Shared Memory for Java</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 17:02:16 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 17:02:16 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 17:02:16 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Jul 18, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Martin N.</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: The blight of the Architect</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41283</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Hi Alexandre,<br><br><blockquote>But as soon as I had to read someone else program, oh my god, it was hard. Maybe it was because there weren't any tests written but my opinion is while it is more powerful and easier to write programs using a...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 08:21:58 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 08:21:58 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jul 18, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Alexandre Poitras</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: The blight of the Architect</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41283</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Hi Alexandre,...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 00:56:27 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 00:56:27 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 00:56:27 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Jul 18, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Paul Beckford</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>1</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: coders are not the end of it</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41283</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Code in the end is the product. Try to sell documentation without a working product. If "code generation" is only a small part of your effort, then you are in for trouble.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2006 20:56:47 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 17, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Cameron Purdy</jf:author>
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