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        <title>Re: Programmers that have to get things done</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I don't understand why all the programmers out don't call B.S. on all these WS-* standards that make the big companies money and yet hinder most programmers ability to get things done.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 07:18:24 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>PJ Murray</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: JBI &amp;#38; ESB</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41577</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[As I understand it, some of the major vendors' concerns with JBI have more to do with the JBI focus on running things within a single Java server process (JVM), whereas SOA typically involves multi-process (and even multi-language, i.e. languages other...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2006 12:39:12 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 3, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Randy  Schnier</jf:author>
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        <title>MDA Approach?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41577</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Hi Greg,...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2006 11:20:11 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 3, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Jason Lenhart</jf:author>
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        <title>Programmers that have to get things done</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41577</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I don't understand why all the programmers out don't call B.S. on all these WS-* standards that make the big companies money and yet hinder most programmers ability to get things done.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2006 08:51:41 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 3, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>artful dodger</jf:author>
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        <title>JBI &amp;#38; ESB</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41577</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>ESB is more of an SOA infrastructure whereas SCA is more of a standardized SOA development platform. Of course, the overlap between JBI and ESBs is huge but seems like JBI is more of an attempt from Sun to standardize a space (ESB) they did...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2006 04:03:48 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 3, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Kit Davies</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: SCA and SDO seek a standards home</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41577</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Satadru, my apologies, I thought you were referring to the most recent news story not the SCA column from Daniel Rubio....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 19:03:27 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 2, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Michael Meehan</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: SCA and SDO seek a standards home</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41577</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA["ESBs aren't even mentioned in it"......]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 17:35:25 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 2, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Satadru Roy</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: SCA and SDO seek a standards home</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41577</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>The searchwebservices.com article is completely off base in saying vendors that are backing SCA are staying away from ESB.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 14:23:34 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>Michael Meehan</jf:author>
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        <title>SCA and SDO seek a standards home</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41577</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[The Open SOA group has increased its ranks with seven new vendors including Sun Microsystems, Red Hat and Tibco Software. Members of the vendor-led initiative have <a...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 09:44:16 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 13:56:54 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Aug 2, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Michael Meehan</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: SCA and SDO seeks a standards home</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41577</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[SCA and ESB are not competing technologies and there is not a lot in common. SCA is a model for building and assembling services in a number of technologies while ESB is a service mediation platform. The searchwebservices.com article is completely off...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 00:34:11 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 2, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Satadru Roy</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: SCA and SDO seeks a standards home</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41577</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Chintan,

The good news is that Sun has joined as a development partner for SCA with the rest of the Open SOA community. I expect they'll be fully engaged on the implications for the Java platform.

Greg]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 20:15:28 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 1, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>greg pavlik</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: SCA and SDO seeks a standards home</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41577</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[This is a good news. These days many server vendors offer some sort of ESB solution. With the definition of ESB being so unclear, hopefully, these specifications will standardize it or at least provide a foundation to build ESB servers on. ...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 18:04:24 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 1, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Chintan Rajyaguru</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Simplicity...finally</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41577</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[To be fair, that's a really simple hello world example. The real target problem domain here is SOA. SCA Assembly standardized interaction links between services. Some simple examples of where this might help: ...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 16:22:00 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 1, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>greg pavlik</jf:author>
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        <title>Simplicity...finally</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41577</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[This is great!  Restful services over SSL is sooo complicated.  I'm glad 8 large corporations are getting together to simplify things.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 14:43:38 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 1, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>artful dodger</jf:author>
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