Support Forums: Message List - Ten Common Misconceptions about Spring http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Sat, 25 May 2013 17:40:45 -0400 Re: Stupid "Lightweight" vs. "Heavyweight" arguments http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41675 It's strange that the people who attack Spring the most never actually used it. It's always
"I think this..." or "My impression is that..."...]]> Fri, 18 Aug 2006 11:27:17 -0400 Fri, 18 Aug 2006 11:27:17 -0400 Fri, 18 Aug 2006 11:27:17 -0400 Aug 18, 2006 Randy Schnier 0 Spring is a thing of beauty http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41675 Tue, 15 Aug 2006 22:27:01 -0400 Tue, 15 Aug 2006 22:27:01 -0400 Tue, 15 Aug 2006 22:27:01 -0400 Aug 15, 2006 Kiru Pakkirisamy 0 Subtle EJB propaganda http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41675 Mon, 14 Aug 2006 05:20:07 -0400 Mon, 14 Aug 2006 05:20:07 -0400 Mon, 14 Aug 2006 05:20:07 -0400 Aug 14, 2006 Dejan Rudic 1 Re: Misconcieved criticism http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41675 We used Spring on a large project (several hundred beans) with mostly junior developers. We only had a couple of people with significant experience with Spring. Even so, it helped us drastically. We had some initial training (mainly...]]> Sun, 13 Aug 2006 11:52:05 -0400 Sun, 13 Aug 2006 11:52:05 -0400 Sun, 13 Aug 2006 11:52:05 -0400 Aug 13, 2006 David McCoy 2 Re: Misconcieved criticism http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41675
Spring is much easier than dealing with someone's custom factory, database tier, and custom infrastructure.


Err,spring uses springs custom factory, database tier and custom infrastructure. If you don't know...]]> Sun, 13 Aug 2006 11:46:36 -0400 Sun, 13 Aug 2006 11:46:36 -0400 Sun, 13 Aug 2006 11:46:36 -0400 Aug 13, 2006 David McCoy 0 Re: Misconcieved criticism http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41675 Fri, 11 Aug 2006 23:25:10 -0400 Fri, 11 Aug 2006 23:25:10 -0400 Fri, 11 Aug 2006 23:25:10 -0400 Aug 11, 2006 David Freeman 3 Re: Misconcieved criticism http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41675 Spring is much easier than dealing with someone's custom factory, database tier, and custom infrastructure....]]> Fri, 11 Aug 2006 11:56:57 -0400 Fri, 11 Aug 2006 11:56:57 -0400 Fri, 11 Aug 2006 11:56:57 -0400 Aug 11, 2006 Jonathan Gibbons 1 Re: Randy you don't get it http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41675 I do get it.

The point the previous poster made was that even the Spring distribution is large, Spring was still "lightweight" because only the parts being used are loaded into memory.

Well, that's true of JavaEE app servers...]]> Thu, 10 Aug 2006 17:43:52 -0400 Thu, 10 Aug 2006 17:43:52 -0400 Thu, 10 Aug 2006 17:43:52 -0400 Aug 10, 2006 David McCoy 1 Re: Misconcieved criticism http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41675 Spring does have a learning curve. And a large established spring project using aop, annotations, plus an assortment of ad hoc open source technologies, and the spring transactions with annotations and execution blocks mixed in, and 20 odd...]]> Thu, 10 Aug 2006 17:38:41 -0400 Thu, 10 Aug 2006 17:38:41 -0400 Thu, 10 Aug 2006 17:38:41 -0400 Aug 10, 2006 David McCoy 6 Re: Randy you don't get it http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41675 Thu, 10 Aug 2006 13:18:08 -0400 Thu, 10 Aug 2006 13:18:08 -0400 Thu, 10 Aug 2006 13:18:08 -0400 Aug 10, 2006 Randy Schnier 2 Re: Why use Spring http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41675 But, the guys that left had all done plane java projects before, done ejb, done global strategic C++ on unix/linux etc. And from their point of view the problems that spring solved were not problems at all. You don't need anything spring...]]> Thu, 10 Aug 2006 05:11:18 -0400 Thu, 10 Aug 2006 05:11:18 -0400 Thu, 10 Aug 2006 05:11:18 -0400 Aug 10, 2006 Casual Visitor 0 Re: Another spring misconception? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41675 Thu, 10 Aug 2006 04:27:28 -0400 Thu, 10 Aug 2006 04:27:28 -0400 Thu, 10 Aug 2006 04:27:28 -0400 Aug 10, 2006 Jonathan Gibbons 0 Re: Another spring misconception? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41675 Thu, 10 Aug 2006 04:21:39 -0400 Thu, 10 Aug 2006 04:21:39 -0400 Thu, 10 Aug 2006 04:21:39 -0400 Aug 10, 2006 Jonathan Gibbons 1 To Spring or Not... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41675 Spring does have a learning curve. And a large established spring project using aop, annotations, plus an assortment of ad hoc open source technologies, and the spring transactions with annotations and execution blocks mixed in, and 20 odd...]]> Thu, 10 Aug 2006 04:02:15 -0400 Thu, 10 Aug 2006 04:02:15 -0400 Thu, 10 Aug 2006 04:02:15 -0400 Aug 10, 2006 Peter Delahunty 0 Randy you don't get it http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=41675
The whole of the spring distribution is large. That does not stop or affect the fact that spring is light weight. If you only use the IOC thats all that will be loaded into memory thats how java works.

What I find...]]> Thu, 10 Aug 2006 03:52:22 -0400 Thu, 10 Aug 2006 03:52:22 -0400 Thu, 10 Aug 2006 03:52:22 -0400 Aug 10, 2006 Peter Delahunty 3