Support Forums: Message List - Sun Hires the JRuby-guys http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Fri, 24 May 2013 23:34:39 -0400 Re: Decision Maths and YAGNI http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42115 Fri, 13 Oct 2006 08:30:28 -0400 Fri, 13 Oct 2006 08:30:28 -0400 Fri, 13 Oct 2006 08:30:28 -0400 Oct 13, 2006 Paul Beckford 0 Re: Decision Maths and YAGNI http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42115 I'm guessing that the language you speak of is Visual Basic? I've got mixed views on visual basic....]]> Fri, 13 Oct 2006 08:07:57 -0400 Fri, 13 Oct 2006 08:07:57 -0400 Fri, 13 Oct 2006 08:07:57 -0400 Oct 13, 2006 Steve Zara 1 Re: Decision Maths and YAGNI http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42115 Fri, 13 Oct 2006 04:24:15 -0400 Fri, 13 Oct 2006 04:24:15 -0400 Fri, 13 Oct 2006 04:24:15 -0400 Oct 13, 2006 Paul Beckford 2 Re: Decision Maths and YAGNI http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42115 Understood. I would not use Rails in a legacy situation either. But there are a lot of greenfield projects out there that are ripe for Rails, and where this type of simplistic "productivity" calculation has some meaning....]]> Wed, 11 Oct 2006 13:02:15 -0400 Wed, 11 Oct 2006 13:02:15 -0400 Wed, 11 Oct 2006 13:02:15 -0400 Oct 11, 2006 Steve Zara 3 Re: Decision Maths and YAGNI http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42115
I'm not ignoring anything. I agree that the analysis I presented is simplistic.


Then, by definition, you are.

I think we are making different assumptions. I am assuming that using Rails never...]]> Wed, 11 Oct 2006 11:30:20 -0400 Wed, 11 Oct 2006 11:30:20 -0400 Wed, 11 Oct 2006 11:30:20 -0400 Oct 11, 2006 Paul Beckford 4 Re: Decision Maths and YAGNI http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42115 I'm not ignoring anything. I agree that the analysis I presented is simplistic.
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Hi Steve,

You've got me thinking. Let's do a more accurate calculation. Again on the C2 Wiki, someone as posted a methematical formula we can use based on Decision Maths:

Wed, 11 Oct 2006 10:54:31 -0400 Wed, 11 Oct 2006 10:54:31 -0400 Wed, 11 Oct 2006 10:54:31 -0400 Oct 11, 2006 Paul Beckford 6 Re: Decision Maths and YAGNI http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42115 Hi Steve,

You've got me thinking. Let's do a more accurate calculation. Again on the C2 Wiki, someone as posted a methematical formula we can use based on Decision Maths:

 Wed, 11 Oct 2006 10:36:04 -0400 Wed, 11 Oct 2006 10:36:04 -0400 Wed, 11 Oct 2006 10:36:04 -0400 Oct 11, 2006 Steve Zara 7 Decision Maths and YAGNI http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42115 Wed, 11 Oct 2006 09:15:43 -0400 Wed, 11 Oct 2006 09:15:43 -0400 Wed, 11 Oct 2006 09:15:43 -0400 Oct 11, 2006 Paul Beckford 8 Re: Black Hole's and "innovation" http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42115 Wed, 11 Oct 2006 05:25:47 -0400 Wed, 11 Oct 2006 05:25:47 -0400 Wed, 11 Oct 2006 05:25:47 -0400 Oct 11, 2006 Paul Beckford 9 Re: Black Hole's and "innovation" http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42115 Tue, 10 Oct 2006 17:08:40 -0400 Tue, 10 Oct 2006 17:08:40 -0400 Tue, 10 Oct 2006 17:08:40 -0400 Oct 10, 2006 Paul Beckford 0 Re: Black Hole's and "innovation" http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42115 You seem very sure! It may not have crossed your mind that I have my reasons (and my experiences) too.
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es. This is the difference in opinion. I do not believe that there is anything as a truly general purpose language. There are languages that can be applied to a wide range of applications, but I do not believe that there is...]]> Tue, 10 Oct 2006 15:49:48 -0400 Tue, 10 Oct 2006 15:49:48 -0400 Tue, 10 Oct 2006 15:49:48 -0400 Oct 10, 2006 Paul Beckford 12 Re: Black Hole's and "innovation" http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42115 es. This is the difference in opinion. I do not believe that there is anything as a truly general purpose language. There are languages that can be applied to a wide range of applications, but I do not believe that there is a language...]]> Tue, 10 Oct 2006 13:35:19 -0400 Tue, 10 Oct 2006 13:35:19 -0400 Tue, 10 Oct 2006 13:35:19 -0400 Oct 10, 2006 Steve Zara 13 Re: Black Hole's and "innovation" http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42115
Hi Steve

As with Visual Basic in the past, I have seen so many people fall in love with the language they use for a what they think is a sweet spot that they do anything to justify its...]]> Tue, 10 Oct 2006 12:01:56 -0400 Tue, 10 Oct 2006 12:01:56 -0400 Tue, 10 Oct 2006 12:01:56 -0400 Oct 10, 2006 Paul Beckford 14