Support Forums: Message List - Allen Holub: Just Say No to XML http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Tue, 18 Jun 2013 02:26:22 -0400 Please take my comment in context. http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42293 Sat, 06 Jun 2009 15:15:51 -0400 Sat, 06 Jun 2009 15:15:51 -0400 Sat, 06 Jun 2009 15:15:51 -0400 Jun 6, 2009 Allen Holub 0 Re: programming language? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42293 Obviously this guy is "misinformed". XML is not a programming language. Maybe he got confused and thought that XPATH is programming.

If anything, I'd say XML is like a database and XPATH/XQUERY is equivalent to SQL in terms of data...]]> Wed, 01 Nov 2006 14:27:23 -0500 Wed, 01 Nov 2006 14:27:23 -0500 Wed, 01 Nov 2006 14:27:23 -0500 Nov 1, 2006 Ke Jin 0 Re: Allen Holub: Just Say No to XML http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42293 Sat, 30 Sep 2006 18:09:56 -0400 Sat, 30 Sep 2006 18:09:56 -0400 Sat, 30 Sep 2006 18:09:56 -0400 Sep 30, 2006 Hans Van Wesenbeeck 0 In defense of Hibernate... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42293 Tue, 26 Sep 2006 23:44:46 -0400 Tue, 26 Sep 2006 23:44:46 -0400 Tue, 26 Sep 2006 23:44:46 -0400 Sep 26, 2006 Jonathan Shields 0 The title should read... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42293 Tue, 26 Sep 2006 20:19:48 -0400 Tue, 26 Sep 2006 20:19:48 -0400 Tue, 26 Sep 2006 20:19:48 -0400 Sep 26, 2006 Martin N. 1 abusus non tollit usum http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42293 Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:20:57 -0400 Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:20:57 -0400 Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:20:57 -0400 Sep 26, 2006 Steve Polyak 0 Re: Sell his book? Why *did* I write the article? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42293 Most of the comments that I'm reading here say that XML is okay for applications where XML is appropriate, and I certainly have no problem with that point of view. I do have a problem with things like JSTL (to use one of the most eggregious...]]> Tue, 26 Sep 2006 04:50:00 -0400 Tue, 26 Sep 2006 04:50:00 -0400 Tue, 26 Sep 2006 04:50:00 -0400 Sep 26, 2006 John Brand 0 Re: programming language? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42293
First of all, Alan is the leading authority on Object Oriented design and programming.


Yeah, right.


Ah, he pretty much is. Read his Holub on Patterns book and let me know what...]]> Tue, 26 Sep 2006 02:42:53 -0400 Tue, 26 Sep 2006 02:42:53 -0400 Tue, 26 Sep 2006 02:42:53 -0400 Sep 26, 2006 Nomadic 0 Re: XML and EJB is the root of all evil !!! http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42293 Tue, 26 Sep 2006 00:42:09 -0400 Tue, 26 Sep 2006 00:42:09 -0400 Tue, 26 Sep 2006 00:42:09 -0400 Sep 26, 2006 Sergio Oliveira 0 Re: XML and EJB is the root of all evil !!! http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42293
Compiling a SINGLE configuration file in Java, in other words a single class file will take a couple of milliseconds.

You forget all the files that depend on that configuration file, which is, by...]]> Tue, 26 Sep 2006 00:35:56 -0400 Tue, 26 Sep 2006 00:35:56 -0400 Tue, 26 Sep 2006 00:35:56 -0400 Sep 26, 2006 Sergio Oliveira 1 Re: programming language? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42293 This is getting out of hand.
...]]> Mon, 25 Sep 2006 23:41:03 -0400 Mon, 25 Sep 2006 23:41:03 -0400 Mon, 25 Sep 2006 23:41:03 -0400 Sep 25, 2006 Ilya Sterin 0 Re: programming language? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42293 Cedric, again, the embed the printing knowledge only applies to the most simple examples. The best way is to privide a Builder interface. By exposing the information of the object (which is again OK in some cases), you are exposing the...]]> Mon, 25 Sep 2006 17:40:13 -0400 Mon, 25 Sep 2006 17:40:13 -0400 Mon, 25 Sep 2006 17:40:13 -0400 Sep 25, 2006 Mike Bosch 1 Re: XML and EJB is the root of all evil !!! http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42293 Besides the fact thay maybe I don't want to compile the production system for a minor config change....]]> Mon, 25 Sep 2006 14:31:59 -0400 Mon, 25 Sep 2006 14:31:59 -0400 Mon, 25 Sep 2006 14:31:59 -0400 Sep 25, 2006 Konstantin Ignatyev 0 Re: XML and EJB is the root of all evil !!! http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42293
Compiling a SINGLE configuration file in Java, in other words a single class file will take a couple of milliseconds.

You forget all the files that depend on that configuration file, which is, by definition,...]]> Mon, 25 Sep 2006 13:15:06 -0400 Mon, 25 Sep 2006 13:15:06 -0400 Mon, 25 Sep 2006 13:15:06 -0400 Sep 25, 2006 David McCoy 3 Re: DSLs without rolling your own http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42293 Mon, 25 Sep 2006 13:02:57 -0400 Mon, 25 Sep 2006 13:02:57 -0400 Mon, 25 Sep 2006 13:02:57 -0400 Sep 25, 2006 Konstantin Ignatyev 0