Support Forums: Message List - Article: Is Software Becoming More Testable? http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Mon, 20 May 2013 13:54:09 -0400 Re: Languages are the culprit http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42481 Thu, 12 Oct 2006 17:54:07 -0400 Thu, 12 Oct 2006 17:54:07 -0400 Thu, 12 Oct 2006 17:54:07 -0400 Oct 12, 2006 Ray Mcdermott 0 Languages are the culprit http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42481 Wed, 11 Oct 2006 10:25:13 -0400 Wed, 11 Oct 2006 10:25:13 -0400 Wed, 11 Oct 2006 10:25:13 -0400 Oct 11, 2006 Michael Feathers 1 Automated Method Testing http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42481 Wed, 11 Oct 2006 08:36:12 -0400 Wed, 11 Oct 2006 08:36:12 -0400 Wed, 11 Oct 2006 08:36:12 -0400 Oct 11, 2006 Marvin Toll 0 Re: Too much focus on testability http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42481
this "pattern" being totally ignorant of the actual storage mechanism (JDO,EJB,Hibernate,PlainSQL...).

Well there you have it. PlainSQL it not OO in anyway. DAO is using the least common denominator. What you end...]]> Sun, 08 Oct 2006 19:56:49 -0400 Sun, 08 Oct 2006 19:56:49 -0400 Sun, 08 Oct 2006 19:56:49 -0400 Oct 8, 2006 Ilya Sterin 0 Re: Too much focus on testability http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42481
Unfortunately most designer seems to think that it is ok to sacrifice good business object design in favor of testability. That is why we have the horrible DAO pattern instead of using technologies like JDO, Hibernate and...]]> Sun, 08 Oct 2006 19:54:01 -0400 Sun, 08 Oct 2006 19:54:01 -0400 Sun, 08 Oct 2006 19:54:01 -0400 Oct 8, 2006 Ilya Sterin 0 Re: Too much focus on testability http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42481 Today we don't have frameworks that can be "unit testable" without thinking of it when designing.
Unfortunatly most designer seem to think that it is ok to sacrifice Today we don't have frameworks that can be "unit testable" without...]]> Sun, 08 Oct 2006 15:11:31 -0400 Sun, 08 Oct 2006 15:11:31 -0400 Sun, 08 Oct 2006 15:11:31 -0400 Oct 8, 2006 Ilya Sterin 0 OK I am going to screw around here. http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42481 Fri, 06 Oct 2006 10:01:41 -0400 Fri, 06 Oct 2006 10:01:41 -0400 Fri, 06 Oct 2006 10:01:41 -0400 Oct 6, 2006 patel123 0 Re: Too much focus on testability http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42481 this "pattern" being totally ignorant of the actual storage mechanism (JDO,EJB,Hibernate,PlainSQL...).
...]]> Fri, 06 Oct 2006 03:00:59 -0400 Fri, 06 Oct 2006 03:00:59 -0400 Fri, 06 Oct 2006 03:00:59 -0400 Oct 6, 2006 Bj??rn Caroll 1 Re: Too much focus on testability http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42481 The "horrible DAO pattern" is not bad at all, if there is real remoting between Client and Server....]]> Thu, 05 Oct 2006 11:43:30 -0400 Thu, 05 Oct 2006 11:43:30 -0400 Thu, 05 Oct 2006 11:43:30 -0400 Oct 5, 2006 Rod Johnson 0 Re: Too much focus on testability http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42481 Unfortunately most designer seems to think that it is ok to sacrifice good business object design in favor of testability. That is why we have the horrible DAO pattern instead of using technologies like JDO, Hibernate and JPA....]]> Thu, 05 Oct 2006 08:39:06 -0400 Thu, 05 Oct 2006 08:39:06 -0400 Thu, 05 Oct 2006 08:39:06 -0400 Oct 5, 2006 Karl Banke 4 Too much focus on testability http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42481 Thu, 05 Oct 2006 05:00:01 -0400 Thu, 05 Oct 2006 05:00:01 -0400 Thu, 05 Oct 2006 05:00:01 -0400 Oct 5, 2006 Bj??rn Caroll 6 Automated testing in XINS http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42481 XINS application framework has, over the years, developed several features to improve both manual and automated testing. Indeed this stems from the fact that the framework is based on a fairly high level of...]]> Thu, 05 Oct 2006 03:39:49 -0400 Thu, 05 Oct 2006 03:39:49 -0400 Thu, 05 Oct 2006 03:39:49 -0400 Oct 5, 2006 Ernst de Haan 0 Re: Article: Is Software Becoming More Testable? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42481 Thu, 05 Oct 2006 01:28:24 -0400 Thu, 05 Oct 2006 01:28:24 -0400 Thu, 05 Oct 2006 01:28:24 -0400 Oct 5, 2006 arijit dey 0 Article: Is Software Becoming More Testable? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42481 There is obviously a degree of...]]> Wed, 04 Oct 2006 13:01:36 -0400 Wed, 04 Oct 2006 13:01:36 -0400 Wed, 04 Oct 2006 13:01:36 -0400 Oct 4, 2006 ReginaIT 13