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        <title>JAVA persistence should be just about OBJECTS</title>
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        <pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2006 19:30:51 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <title>Re: JPA is just marketing</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[I have used both JDO and EJB3. I implement two prototypes of the same application with these APIs. One one hand I have JDO (Versant Open Access- ex JDO genie) and EJB3 (Jboss)....]]></description>
        

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        <title>Re: JPA is just marketing</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>though XML storage vendors are getting relatively close.</blockquote><br><br>Hmmm, doesn't trying force an OO view of the world on an inherently hierarchical model (XML) make the impedence mismatch worse?<br><br></blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 09:39:23 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>Ilya Sterin</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: JPA is just marketing</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42492</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>though XML storage vendors are getting relatively close.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 08:48:03 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>Bill Burke</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: JPA is just marketing</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42492</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>You made it very clear ... <br>From a marketing perspective JPA is great.<br>But, what about the Specification... <br>JDO is by far the best Persistence Specification.<br>Soon or late programmers will need something to reduce the complexity...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 08 Oct 2006 22:57:53 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>Ilya Sterin</jf:author>
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        <title>Interesting Idea</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42492</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[It's too bad this has turned into yet another flame war between EJB3 and JDO folks. It's not surprising though....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 15:18:03 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>Michael Galpin</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: JPA is just marketing</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42492</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Whether or not JDO is better is irrelevant....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 14:32:21 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>Javier Pavier</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: JPA is just marketing</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>JDO is by far the best Persistence Specification.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 13:11:47 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>Bill Burke</jf:author>
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        <title>JPA is just marketing</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[You made it very clear ... ...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 10:34:55 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Oct 6, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Michael Steinberg</jf:author>
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        <title>JDO was already dead...</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>You are totally wrong.<br>JPA has no way, any kind of momentum.<br>1rst) Every JPA was actually an Hibernate user.<br>Probes: people still vote for Hibernate.<br><a href="http://www.java.net/pub/pq/122"...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 09:45:28 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>Bill Burke</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: An Implicit Query Proposal for EJB3</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42492</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[What this boils down to is a need to make queries against methods in an object. The hard part is how do I express this method. ...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 03:22:17 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>Bj??rn Caroll</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: JPA... no thanks</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>You don't need a better mousetrap to become popular, you need marketing. EJB 3 and JPA has the marketing  and implementations that JDO never had.</blockquote>
A correction there. JDO has *always* had the implementations.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 01:16:06 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>Javier Pavier</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: JPA... no thanks</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>JPA has no way, any kind of momentum.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 21:05:20 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Oct 5, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Will Hartung</jf:author>
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        <title>JPA... no thanks</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42492</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[You are totally wrong....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 19:52:39 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Oct 5, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Michael Steinberg</jf:author>
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        <title>JPA has won</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Actually, as an avid JDO user, I think this proposal has a lot of technical merit. One of the most frequent things I find myself doing in JDO is creating Query objects and executing them to navigate intelligently around the model. The proposal would...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 18:37:11 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Oct 5, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Ben Eng</jf:author>
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