Support Forums: Message List - SOA meets Web 2.0: Where the Java EE standards fall short http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Fri, 24 May 2013 02:47:41 -0400 Re: Cool technologies shaping Web2.0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42755 Wed, 01 Nov 2006 04:05:23 -0500 Wed, 01 Nov 2006 04:05:23 -0500 Wed, 01 Nov 2006 04:05:23 -0500 Nov 1, 2006 Shashank Jain 0 Re: Security and the like http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42755 Fri, 27 Oct 2006 16:26:28 -0400 Fri, 27 Oct 2006 16:26:28 -0400 Fri, 27 Oct 2006 16:26:28 -0400 Oct 27, 2006 Charles Kendrick 0 Re: Security and the like http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42755 br>It's really quite simple: in an application where the entire page refreshes for most interactions, the server must hang onto a lot of temporary state, including the current expansion state of navigation menus, current contents of form...]]> Thu, 26 Oct 2006 15:43:46 -0400 Thu, 26 Oct 2006 15:43:46 -0400 Thu, 26 Oct 2006 15:43:46 -0400 Oct 26, 2006 Karl Banke 1 Re: Security and the like http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42755
If you don't store temporary presentation state on the server, you don't need failover for it. This is one of the larger benefits of client-server architecture in terms of both scalability and reliability.
Of course...]]> Thu, 26 Oct 2006 14:05:49 -0400 Thu, 26 Oct 2006 14:05:49 -0400 Thu, 26 Oct 2006 14:05:49 -0400 Oct 26, 2006 Charles Kendrick 2 Re: Security and the like http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42755 I have seen little indication that Ajax-based applications are vulnerable to a new class of exploit...]]> Thu, 26 Oct 2006 06:47:22 -0400 Thu, 26 Oct 2006 06:47:22 -0400 Thu, 26 Oct 2006 06:47:22 -0400 Oct 26, 2006 Karl Banke 0 Re: Security and the like http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42755 If you don't store temporary presentation state on the server, you don't need failover for it. This is one of the larger benefits of client-server architecture in terms of both scalability and reliability....]]> Thu, 26 Oct 2006 05:24:19 -0400 Thu, 26 Oct 2006 05:24:19 -0400 Thu, 26 Oct 2006 05:24:19 -0400 Oct 26, 2006 Karl Banke 3 Re: New standards, but not JSF or maybe not even J2EE http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42755 Hi my fiend,

Use a little imagination :^).

We would not have AJAX today if Microsoft didn't introduce XMLHttpRequest to IE. When they did it wasn't standard either (infact I'm not sdure that XMLHttpRequest is a W3C standard...]]> Thu, 26 Oct 2006 05:09:58 -0400 Thu, 26 Oct 2006 05:09:58 -0400 Thu, 26 Oct 2006 05:09:58 -0400 Oct 26, 2006 John Brand 0 Re: Security and the like http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42755 Low latency to backend serversAjax-based approaches improve performance by never going to the server at all for many kinds of interactions (eg screen rearrangements, sorting, etc)....]]> Wed, 25 Oct 2006 17:40:45 -0400 Wed, 25 Oct 2006 17:40:45 -0400 Wed, 25 Oct 2006 17:40:45 -0400 Oct 25, 2006 Charles Kendrick 5 Security and the like http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42755 Could you explain why you think using more AJAX "blows a major hole in the web security model"? As I see it, using AJAX with a client-server architecture produces a simpler application that is more easily audited from a security standpoint...]]> Wed, 25 Oct 2006 16:19:15 -0400 Wed, 25 Oct 2006 16:19:15 -0400 Wed, 25 Oct 2006 16:19:15 -0400 Oct 25, 2006 Karl Banke 6 Re: New standards, but not JSF or maybe not even J2EE http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42755 ... I have a fundamental problem with most of them, as they rely entirely on large amounts of JavaScript running client-side. Frankly, we view that as a pretty fragile environment to build sophisticated enterprise applications in. On top of...]]> Wed, 25 Oct 2006 14:32:42 -0400 Wed, 25 Oct 2006 14:32:42 -0400 Wed, 25 Oct 2006 14:32:42 -0400 Oct 25, 2006 Charles Kendrick 7 Re: Cool technologies shaping Web2.0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42755
I agree.

IMHO this article would be more appropriately titled something like "Ajax integration with JSF".


Ah, but spouting of meaningless buzzwords is so much more fun!...]]> Wed, 25 Oct 2006 09:47:16 -0400 Wed, 25 Oct 2006 09:47:16 -0400 Wed, 25 Oct 2006 09:47:16 -0400 Oct 25, 2006 Guido Anzuoni 0 Re: New standards, but not JSF or maybe not even J2EE http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42755
Javascript at its core is actually a very sophisticated OO language (based on Self).


I might have been a long time gone, but from what I remember, JavaScript is not object oriented. It is an object based...]]> Wed, 25 Oct 2006 09:00:40 -0400 Wed, 25 Oct 2006 09:00:40 -0400 Wed, 25 Oct 2006 09:00:40 -0400 Oct 25, 2006 Paul Beckford 0 Re: New standards, but not JSF or maybe not even J2EE http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42755 Wed, 25 Oct 2006 08:39:53 -0400 Wed, 25 Oct 2006 08:39:53 -0400 Wed, 25 Oct 2006 08:39:53 -0400 Oct 25, 2006 Paul Beckford 1 Re: New standards, but not JSF or maybe not even J2EE http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42755 Hopefully the Firefox guys are watching, I see an opportunity for them to steal a jump on Micorosoft and IE here. For sure Microsoft won't want browser based apps of this quality competing with Microsoft Apps on the Desktop....]]> Wed, 25 Oct 2006 08:18:02 -0400 Wed, 25 Oct 2006 08:18:02 -0400 Wed, 25 Oct 2006 08:18:02 -0400 Oct 25, 2006 John Brand 2 Re: New standards, but not JSF or maybe not even J2EE http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=42755 Javascript at its core is actually a very sophisticated OO language (based on Self)....]]> Wed, 25 Oct 2006 08:08:55 -0400 Wed, 25 Oct 2006 08:08:55 -0400 Wed, 25 Oct 2006 08:08:55 -0400 Oct 25, 2006 Karl Banke 1