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    <title>Support Forums: Message List - Tim Bray: Java is less scalable than PHP</title>
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        <title>It depends on the stack and frameworks used</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43020</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I have developed a little PHP and I am relatively new to Java also. My experience so far is, that in general Java can be awesome and awkward depending on the library and framework stack used.<br/><br/>So, IMHO such a generic result cannot...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 05:41:11 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 13, 2010</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Martin Wildam</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: let's think then</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43020</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>The clear winner concerning multithreading is of course Java, especially with the freshly integrated concurrency package.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 06:43:03 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 06:43:03 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Nov 20, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>John Brand</jf:author>
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        <title>enter the matrix</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43020</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Here is my 2c and it's simple as this. Java is the Matrix and Ruby is the real world, well not the real real world we're living in :). ...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 13:42:20 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 16, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Nhat Vo</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: re: metaprogramming/ruby</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43020</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>no reference was made to HTML.</blockquote><br><br>Well, this thread is about web frameworks.  It includes mention of PHP, which is primarily for writing HTML, and has no standard framework (like Rails) for simplifying database...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 13:28:47 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 13:28:47 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Nov 16, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Paul Beckford</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: re: metaprogramming/ruby</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43020</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>no reference was made to HTML.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 12:37:14 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 16, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Steve Zara</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: MORE scalable or LESS scalable ?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43020</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>...and Ruby and PHP and Python and .NET will all have reached full parity with Java within the next twelve to eighteen months.</blockquote>

Should we be expecting a Tangosol product for the LAMP stack space soon?  ;)]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 11:51:06 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 16, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Stephen Molitor</jf:author>
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        <title>MORE scalable or LESS scalable ?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43020</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>there is no such thing like "more scalable" or "less scalable". Your app/technology is either scalable or not. It is a non-functional attribute of your application that you can achieve by a good design. Scalability in few words means that...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 10:57:54 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 16, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Cameron Purdy</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: re: metaprogramming/ruby</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43020</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>In your zeal to defend Java, you have totally misquoted again.</blockquote><br><br>No.  The post referered (I assumed) to generating HTML.  There was no mention at all of persistence.  If you do want a single framework in Java...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 10:11:55 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 16, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Paul Beckford</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: re: metaprogramming/ruby</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43020</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>In your zeal to defend Java, you have totally misquoted again.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 09:52:12 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 16, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Steve Zara</jf:author>
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        <title>let's think then</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Call me crazy, but I think that for 99% of business applications, the bottleneck is the unskilled programmers not able to write scalable applications....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 08:15:03 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 16, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Derek Breton</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: MORE scalable or LESS scalable ?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43020</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>The support for scalability by Java, Ruby, PHP is rather correlated on how they support e.g. multithreading. In this case it is quite clear who is the winner.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 04:53:46 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 16, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>John Brand</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: re: metaprogramming/ruby</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43020</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>I don't think the answer is to limit the flexibility of the language. The answer is to be smart and pragmatic about using the language features. Don't let really freaking smart people go off the deep...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 02:01:28 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 16, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Paul Beckford</jf:author>
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        <title>MORE scalable or LESS scalable ?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43020</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Gentlemen,...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:48:34 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 15, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Derek Breton</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: re: metaprogramming/ruby</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43020</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>I don't think the answer is to limit the flexibility of the language. The answer is to be smart and pragmatic about using the language features. Don't let really freaking smart people go off the deep...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2006 16:26:15 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 15, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Steve Zara</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: re: metaprogramming/ruby</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43020</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>I don't think the answer is to limit the flexibility of the language. The answer is to be smart and pragmatic about using the language features. Don't let really freaking smart people go off the deep...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2006 15:51:06 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 15, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Aaron Evans</jf:author>
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