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        <title>It's about ownership and trust</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43167</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[A sage superior of mine said once -- 'you take on open source, you take on ownership of every line of code'. ...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 24 Nov 2006 18:58:55 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 24 Nov 2006 18:58:55 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Nov 24, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Julian Harris</jf:author>
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        <title>Trick them into it</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43167</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I would first request permission to develop our own framework from scratch. This would get me the following answer: "Are you crazy? You must use something off-the-shelf. We can't spend money developing that kind of low-level stuff ourselves."...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 14:50:55 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 14:50:55 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Nov 21, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Alain Rogister</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Spring almost entirely non invasive</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43167</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<div class="jive-quote"><div class="jive-quote"><div class="jive-quote">Anyway, Spring is non-invasive; you can code an application where the entire Spring dependency is encapsulated in the Main class where you initialize your app...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 11:41:22 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 11:41:22 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Nov 21, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Berry Crawford</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Spring almost entirely non invasive</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43167</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>Joel on Software has an interesting take on this issue.<br><br><a href="http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000007.html" target="_blank"><a href="http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000007.html"...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 11:37:27 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 21, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Erik Engbrecht</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: some red tape is needed?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43167</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>... how you overcome a policy against open-source based on the corporate lawyer's perception of risk (real or imagined) i do not know...</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 08:07:15 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 08:07:15 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Nov 21, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Mark N</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Raible: Red Tape and open source frameworks</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43167</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>This is an interesting topic.<br><br>I believe you will not succeed by namedropping technical buzzwords (Ioc, AOP et al.). I remember though there was a podcast a few weeks ago by some famous dude who works in a big London bank. He said the...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 08:05:44 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 08:05:44 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Nov 21, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Mark N</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Raible: Red Tape and open source frameworks</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43167</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>If your compay is using Websphere - disregard.</blockquote>

Why?

-S]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 07:07:35 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 07:07:35 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Nov 21, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>simon carni</jf:author>
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        <title>Spring almost entirely non invasive</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43167</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Joel on Software has an interesting take on this issue.<br><br><a href="http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000007.html" target="_blank">http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000007.html</a></blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 03:56:45 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 21, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Chris Marshall</jf:author>
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        <title>In Defense of Not Built Here</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43167</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Joel on Software has an interesting take on this issue.

<a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000007.html" target="_newWindow">http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000007.html</a>]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 23:59:00 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 20, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Brian Hart</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Raible: Red Tape and open source frameworks</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43167</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[This is an interesting topic....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 20:02:08 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 20, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>bob farmer</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Raible: Red Tape and open source frameworks</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43167</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I view Spring as the new Struts.  Use it on the app tier where it can do the least damage.  Play up the interfacey-ness of Spring so you can swap out an implementation in 5 years.  Struts, like Spring, offers development time performance with no real...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 18:44:39 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 20, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Andrew Clifford</jf:author>
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        <title>some red tape is needed?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43167</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I see this as a two part problem......]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 15:18:40 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 15:18:40 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Nov 20, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>James Prickett</jf:author>
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        <title>You missed a bit</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43167</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>of course till you become real manager and start do real manager job - protect you ass in warm chair</blockquote>
Full frontal lobotomy comes before that step.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 15:11:45 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 20, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Javier Pavier</jf:author>
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        <title>Real story....</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43167</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Real story is that there is midle-management layer that...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 14:56:56 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 20, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Alex V</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>2</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Who do I sue</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43167</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[3) If something goes horribly wrong due to it, who do I sue?...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 13:32:14 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 20, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Karl Banke</jf:author>
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