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        <title>Re: &quot;source-code protected code base&quot;</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43263</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>has someone did performance tests? would be very interesting: cocobase vs. hibernate or any other opensource o/r mapping tool.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 14:28:34 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 4, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Andy Jefferson</jf:author>
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        <title>&quot;source-code protected code base&quot;</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43263</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[... means that software patent protected runs 2 to 3 times faster than "unprotected" source code ;-)

has someone did performance tests? would be very interesting: cocobase vs. hibernate or any other opensource o/r mapping tool.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 09:18:23 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 09:18:23 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Dec 4, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Michael Maier</jf:author>
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        <title>What a load of bull****</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43263</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>... This allows corporate applications to take advantage of a patented and source-code protected code base.</blockquote>
I stopped reading after this bit. "source-code protected code base", what value does this add to its customers?]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 16:40:43 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 16:40:43 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Dec 1, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Daniel Serodio</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>2</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: CocoBase, object/relational architecture, adds EJB3 JPA Supp</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43263</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[In other related news, CocoBase outperforms JDBC.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 18:46:30 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 18:46:30 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Nov 30, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Martin N.</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: it's not about caching ..</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43263</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[And if they improved the overall JDBC performance, why these improvements have not been directly implemented in JDBC?...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 04:01:16 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 04:01:16 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 04:01:16 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Nov 30, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Cyril Gambis</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: it's not about caching ..</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43263</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[There's also the JDBC driver in the way, where a lot of CPU time is wasted too, so unless they do some very obscure black magic, that's a very doubtful figure indeed.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:38:47 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:38:47 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:38:47 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Nov 29, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Henrique Steckelberg</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: it's not about caching ..</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43263</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Nope, here is Ward's explanation:<br><br><blockquote>&gt; &gt; If you need O/R mapping features not in Hibernate, just get CocoBase. It's the only O/R tool that outperforms RAW JDBC without caching enabled.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Do you use...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:08:10 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:08:10 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Nov 29, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Bill Burke</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: it's not about caching ..</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43263</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>We use JDBC under the hood, but our architecture makes it possible for hotspot to better optimize our code than raw JDBC does. We ship the test harness and testcases as source code with our product. I doubt you're too stupid to understand the...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 12:08:26 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 12:08:26 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Nov 29, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Mileta Cekovic</jf:author>
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        <title>it's not about caching ..</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43263</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Nope, here is Ward's explanation:...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 11:32:31 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 29, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Cameron Purdy</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>4</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: CocoBase, object/relational architecture, adds EJB3 JPA Supp</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43263</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Provides the only major commercial (non open-source) ORM tool implementation of the EJB 3.0 JPA.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 10:46:41 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 10:46:41 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 10:46:41 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Nov 29, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Andy Jefferson</jf:author>
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        <title>2 - 3 times faster...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43263</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I disagree. Caching has significant implications on the application behavior, and must always be taken into account in non-trivial applications. Therefore comparing a non-caching approach to a caching one is apples to oranges....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 09:21:34 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 09:21:34 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Nov 29, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Christian Sell</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>5</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: CocoBase, object/relational architecture, adds EJB3 JPA Supp</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43263</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>4) Provides the only major commercial (non open-source) ORM tool implementation of the EJB 3.0 JPA. This allows corporate applications to take advantage of a patented and source-code protected code base.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 08:42:58 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 08:42:58 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Nov 29, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Cyril Gambis</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: &quot;2 - 3 times faster than hand-coded with just a JDBC driver&quot;</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43263</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Ward explained it a few years ago, and it was just one test that he did that showed a quirk in the Hotspot compiler. As a result, there are no general reproducible tests that will show this claim to be true....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 07:05:13 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 07:05:13 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 07:05:13 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Nov 29, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Cameron Purdy</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: &quot;2 - 3 times faster than hand-coded with just a JDBC driver&quot;</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43263</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Sorry but this argument can't be true. Everything a mapping tool can do automatically can be coded by hand (reusing of prepared statements, batch update, etc.). And hand coding can be even more cusomized than a mapping tool can ever do...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 06:17:37 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 29, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Dirk Mahler</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>7</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>2 - 3 times faster than hand-coded with just a JDBC driver</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43263</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Sorry but this argument can't be true. Everything a mapping tool can do automatically can be coded by hand (reusing of prepared statements, batch update, etc.). And hand coding can be even more cusomized than a mapping tool can ever do "understand" the...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 05:18:08 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 05:18:08 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 05:18:08 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Nov 29, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Michael Maier</jf:author>
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