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        <title>Re: Ant 1.7.0 Released</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43590</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Do people still use Ant? I thought Maven 2 was the build tool?</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 03:30:48 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 2, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>michele michele</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Ant 1.7.0 Released</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43590</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Guess control flows are available in ant-contrib..]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 02:21:53 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 02:21:53 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jan 2, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Dilip Easwaran</jf:author>
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        <title>Rake</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43590</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I don't understand how people think xml is appropriate for systems like builds.  A scripting language is much easier for this.  Ruby's rake is awesome... so much more powerful than Ant because you can mix Ruby with the built in rake...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 31 Dec 2006 08:46:44 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sun, 31 Dec 2006 08:46:44 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Sun, 31 Dec 2006 08:46:44 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Dec 31, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Steve Loughran</jf:author>
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        <title>Ant is not a deployment tool</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43590</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I am part of the Ant team; I really work full time on deployment of complex applications....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 31 Dec 2006 08:42:43 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sun, 31 Dec 2006 08:42:43 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Dec 31, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Steve Loughran</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: to address Cedric's concerns</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43590</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>Better expressions (if/else/while).<br></blockquote><br>ant-contrib's if and for tasks go a long way here.<br><br></blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 15:11:31 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 15:11:31 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 15:11:31 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Dec 29, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Ilya Sterin</jf:author>
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        <title>to Cedric, RE procedural band-aids</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43590</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>While I agree that a build system needs to be based on a declarative style, because that's what most of the build tasks will be, it also needs to support some sort of procedural language, and that's why the Prolog metaphor doesn't apply...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 14:21:37 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 14:21:37 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Dec 29, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Matt Benson</jf:author>
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        <title>to address Cedric's concerns</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43590</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Just because something is complex enough doesn't mean it's rich enough (think about it:  we're back to #include!)<br><br>I certainly think that ant needs some of the features mentioned by the original poster, and then some:<br><br>- Better...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 14:07:29 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 14:07:29 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Dec 29, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Matt Benson</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>1</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Control Flows</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43590</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I guess we'll just agree to disagree.  I find the task oriented syntax much simpler and clearer than the script based  syntax.  Especially when the tasks to be executed is a bit more complex, and when you start dealing with things other than string based...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 12:23:29 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:modificationDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 12:23:29 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Dec 29, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Matthew Inger</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>XML Syntax</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43590</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[The xml syntax can be somewhat cumbersome, but you have to remember, the authors intended it as a DECLARATIVE oriented build solution.  It was not meant to be a scripting language.  As a declarative solution, XML works perfectly fine, and makes alot of...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 12:21:42 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 29, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Matthew Inger</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: Ant 1.7.0 Released</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43590</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Nice, but what we actually need is:<br>- control-flow support (if-else-elsif-endif, foreach, choose-when),<br>- exception handling support (try-catch-finally)<br>- better variables, expressions and functions support<br>in order to build...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 15:29:12 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 15:29:12 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Dec 28, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>James Watson</jf:author>
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        <title>xml sucks for builds</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43590</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I don't understand how people think xml is appropriate for systems like builds.  A scripting language is much easier for this.  Ruby's rake is awesome... so much more powerful than Ant because you can mix Ruby with the built in rake tasks.....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 26 Dec 2006 23:50:15 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 26, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Phil Swenson</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>2</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: Ant 1.7.0 Released</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43590</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>Do people still use Ant? I thought Maven 2 was the build tool?</blockquote><br><br>What do you think ? Would they release a new version if it was dead ??</blockquote><br><br>To be honest I think Ant is on a downward...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 23 Dec 2006 18:13:57 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sat, 23 Dec 2006 18:13:57 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Sat, 23 Dec 2006 18:13:57 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Dec 23, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Ilya Sterin</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>process oriented language</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43590</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>To be honest I think Ant is on a downward path... I haven't used it for over a year, and everyone I know is moving to Maven 2.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 23 Dec 2006 15:10:16 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sat, 23 Dec 2006 15:10:16 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Dec 23, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Vladimir Perlov</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Ant 1.7.0 Released</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43590</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>Do people still use Ant? I thought Maven 2 was the build tool?</blockquote><br><br>What do you think ? Would they release a new version if it was dead ??</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2006 15:57:52 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:modificationDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2006 15:57:52 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Dec 22, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Jarvis Ragona</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Ant 1.7.0 Released</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43590</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>- I need to check if my system is up or not (functions &#38; condition)</blockquote>I think checking to see if a server is up is well beyond the best practices of ANT usage.  It really sounds like you're trying to hammer that...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2006 12:17:48 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 22, 2006</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Mileta Cekovic</jf:author>
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