Support Forums: Message List - No Java for the iPhone? http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Thu, 20 Jun 2013 05:11:32 -0400 Re: iPhone = Dynabook http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43850 So from yet another sound-bite, you have concluded that the iPhone will only allow pre-installed widgets, but won't allow you to download widgets of your own choosing!...]]> Sun, 21 Jan 2007 14:19:50 -0500 Sun, 21 Jan 2007 14:19:50 -0500 Sun, 21 Jan 2007 14:19:50 -0500 Jan 21, 2007 Steve Zara 0 Re: iPhone = Dynabook http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43850
Wow .. you read all of that into those few words.


Of course it wasn't just those few words. I have been researching the iPhone in depth; both the direct statements from Apple and associated...]]> Sun, 21 Jan 2007 13:35:13 -0500 Sun, 21 Jan 2007 13:35:13 -0500 Sun, 21 Jan 2007 13:35:13 -0500 Jan 21, 2007 Paul Beckford 1 Re: iPhone = Dynabook http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43850 Wow .. you read all of that into those few words. ...]]> Sun, 21 Jan 2007 12:35:50 -0500 Sun, 21 Jan 2007 12:35:50 -0500 Sun, 21 Jan 2007 12:35:50 -0500 Jan 21, 2007 Steve Zara 2 Re: iPhone = Dynabook http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43850
I have read nothing to exclude the iPhone supporting WPF/e or Appollo in the future.


Well I have:

"These are devices that need to work, and you can’t do that if you load any software on them"....]]> Sun, 21 Jan 2007 11:03:26 -0500 Sun, 21 Jan 2007 11:03:26 -0500 Sun, 21 Jan 2007 11:03:26 -0500 Jan 21, 2007 Paul Beckford 3 Re: iPhone = Dynabook http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43850 If you follow my posts carefully you will see that I explicitly say that the iPhone does not support WPF/e today....]]> Sun, 21 Jan 2007 10:29:58 -0500 Sun, 21 Jan 2007 10:29:58 -0500 Sun, 21 Jan 2007 10:29:58 -0500 Jan 21, 2007 Steve Zara 4 Re: iPhone = Dynabook http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43850 Apple is against even sandboxed downloaded applications running on the iPhone, which would include the .NET equivalent of applets, which need a version of the CLR installed. Obviously Javascript is not the same thing, as support for that is...]]> Sun, 21 Jan 2007 09:38:27 -0500 Sun, 21 Jan 2007 09:38:27 -0500 Sun, 21 Jan 2007 09:38:27 -0500 Jan 21, 2007 Paul Beckford 5 Re: iPhone = Dynabook http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43850 You've gone back tp confusing thin client Rich Internet Applications that download to memory and run in the browser, and thick client Apps that you download/install to disk.

Using your interpretation of Jobs words would mean that the...]]> Sun, 21 Jan 2007 08:38:41 -0500 Sun, 21 Jan 2007 08:38:41 -0500 Sun, 21 Jan 2007 08:38:41 -0500 Jan 21, 2007 Steve Zara 6 Re: iPhone = Dynabook http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43850 No, if you look at Apple's plans for the iPhone, they don't intend anyone to download virtually ANY software to it.

If you think you are going to be allowed to download C# or VB.NET applications to run on the iPhone, you have...]]> Sun, 21 Jan 2007 05:13:58 -0500 Sun, 21 Jan 2007 05:13:58 -0500 Sun, 21 Jan 2007 05:13:58 -0500 Jan 21, 2007 Paul Beckford 7 Re: iPhone = Dynabook http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43850 BTW. I can tell that you haven't done your homework on WPF....]]> Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:39:46 -0500 Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:39:46 -0500 Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:39:46 -0500 Jan 20, 2007 Steve Zara 8 Re: iPhone = Dynabook http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43850
Paul.

I seriously doubt it. ...]]> Sat, 20 Jan 2007 06:31:17 -0500 Sat, 20 Jan 2007 06:31:17 -0500 Sat, 20 Jan 2007 06:31:17 -0500 Jan 20, 2007 Paul Beckford 9 Re: iPhone = Dynabook http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43850 Conspiracy or not, the facts are that Applets and the JavaStation are no more,...]]> Fri, 19 Jan 2007 08:25:37 -0500 Fri, 19 Jan 2007 08:25:37 -0500 Fri, 19 Jan 2007 08:25:37 -0500 Jan 19, 2007 Steve Zara 10 Re: iPhone = Dynabook http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43850
IMO all these companies have no vision, their goal is to make money for shareholders, period.


So in hindsight I see Applets and the JavaStation as a cynical ploy ....


And at this point my...]]> Fri, 19 Jan 2007 07:25:22 -0500 Fri, 19 Jan 2007 07:25:22 -0500 Fri, 19 Jan 2007 07:25:22 -0500 Jan 19, 2007 Paul Beckford 11 Re: iPhone = Dynabook http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43850 IMO all these companies have no vision, their goal is to make money for shareholders, period....]]> Fri, 19 Jan 2007 06:52:22 -0500 Fri, 19 Jan 2007 06:52:22 -0500 Fri, 19 Jan 2007 06:52:22 -0500 Jan 19, 2007 Steve Zara 12 Re: iPhone = Dynabook http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43850 This is not what Java on the client means for many of us. I am not talking about applets. I am talking about applications running stand-alone. ...]]> Fri, 19 Jan 2007 06:32:26 -0500 Fri, 19 Jan 2007 06:32:26 -0500 Fri, 19 Jan 2007 06:32:26 -0500 Jan 19, 2007 Paul Beckford 13 Re: iPhone = Dynabook http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43850
No, you really don't need to wait and see. As I have already posted in this thread, but you have chosen to ignore, Sun have put a huge investment into Java on the client. Java 6 is a vast improvement in client-side integration and...]]> Fri, 19 Jan 2007 05:23:44 -0500 Fri, 19 Jan 2007 05:23:44 -0500 Fri, 19 Jan 2007 05:23:44 -0500 Jan 19, 2007 Steve Zara 14