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        <title>Re: JSF has major issues</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43899</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>For example, much of the lifecycle is enforced by individual components (through the UIInput base class) and not by a central controller....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 10:38:18 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 30, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>alberto gori</jf:author>
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        <title>JSF has major issues</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43899</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I have spent much time learning JSF and using it in real applications. I have gone through Sun's implementation source code with a fine tooth comb. I have written custom components.  In summary, I can say that I have a small amount of knowledge and...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 17:26:23 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 29, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Bibhas Bhattacharya</jf:author>
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        <title>JSF is another failure</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43899</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I totally agree with Leo L. because I had the same experience. JSF is just another plain paranoid technology coming as push from Sun for pleasing the corporate sick brains....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 08:59:19 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 26, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Malinescu Cristian</jf:author>
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        <title>ADF...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43899</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Hi Steven,...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 20:54:08 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 20:54:08 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jan 25, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Leo Lipelis</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: nice try, but no...lets make it yes</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43899</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[This response is too bad, I am sorry you did not get the help you needed and JSF community needs to take responses like this to heart....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:16:37 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 24, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Steven Murray</jf:author>
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        <title>nice try, but no...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43899</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[By the way, currently I use myfaces and I hate it....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:14:12 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 23, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Leo Lipelis</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: JSF sucks...and has no hope</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43899</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I'm with Steven....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:37:35 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 23, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Eric +</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: JSF sucks...and has no hope</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43899</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[When I first read this response I was a bit put off by the anger and tone of the response.  While this thread is beginning to duplicate thread_id=43705#224933 I would like to respond since the points are somewhat valid and reflect what I am saying above...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:47:43 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 23, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Steven Murray</jf:author>
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        <title>JSF Inter-operability</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43899</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I do not disagree with this statement. My point is directed towards inter-operability of components within a component based system like JSF when each component is using a different Ajax implementation. When I do a project I pick an approach....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:45:23 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 23, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Subbu Allamaraju</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: JSF sucks...and has no hope</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43899</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Just use Wicket.<br><br>-----</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 16:53:12 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 21, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>George Jiang</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: JSF sucks...and has no hope</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43899</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Make it trivial to design custom components.  I am not saying make it easy.  I am saying make it trivial.</blockquote>

Just use Wicket.

-----
Gustavo.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2007 14:00:44 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 20, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Gustavo Santucho</jf:author>
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        <title>JSF sucks...and has no hope</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43899</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I have some experience with JSF, now using it on my second project....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 19:54:38 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 19, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Leo Lipelis</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: JSF faces some challenges but has potential</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43899</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Probably the major reason why there are a bunch of good Ajax alternatives now is because they were freely competing without the burden of standardization and big company politics. I think we should keep it that way for a...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 08:50:23 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 19, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Steven Murray</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: JSF faces some challenges but has potential</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43899</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>The industry needs to quickly settle on one standard implementation of AJAX....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 20:48:43 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 18, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Eelco Hillenius</jf:author>
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        <title>JSF faces some challenges but has potential</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=43899</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I think the talk touched on the majority of challenges facing JSF but provided few solutions.  Ed touched on most of the isssues but provided few real answers for the problems people are dealing with when trying to deliver JSF solutions....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 14:42:34 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 18, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Steven Murray</jf:author>
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