Support Forums: Message List - Software Reusability: Myth Or Reality? http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Fri, 24 May 2013 14:51:32 -0400 Re: Software Reusability: Myth Or Reality? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44009 I think you are missing a mere simply fact: Good code is always good code in context. "Beautiful" engineered code can be extremely cumbersome to read. ...]]> Wed, 31 Jan 2007 12:23:31 -0500 Wed, 31 Jan 2007 12:23:31 -0500 Wed, 31 Jan 2007 12:23:31 -0500 Jan 31, 2007 C0nst@ntine V 0 Re: Software Reusability: Myth Or Reality? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44009 Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:16:18 -0500 Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:16:18 -0500 Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:16:18 -0500 Jan 31, 2007 Karl Banke 1 Re: Agreed but where is the real re-use? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44009 If one take an example from olden days, DBMS software was always resued for database access. User pgm contains just a call to the DBMS in a prticular format (IMS, IDMS, DB2, Oracle, Sybase... or any db). DBMS code changed without any change...]]> Wed, 31 Jan 2007 07:20:05 -0500 Wed, 31 Jan 2007 07:20:05 -0500 Wed, 31 Jan 2007 07:20:05 -0500 Jan 31, 2007 Erik Engbrecht 0 Agreed but where is the real re-use? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44009 Wed, 31 Jan 2007 05:38:56 -0500 Wed, 31 Jan 2007 05:38:56 -0500 Wed, 31 Jan 2007 05:38:56 -0500 Jan 31, 2007 Gopi Nathan 1 Re: I have the biggest one... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44009 BTW, the expression "code monkey" is not a derrogative term, that's how programmers jokingly refer to themselves. It is a very common lighthearted way we make fun of ourselves, and it basically implies a hardworking programmer who spends his...]]> Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:22:56 -0500 Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:22:56 -0500 Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:22:56 -0500 Jan 30, 2007 Erik Engbrecht 0 Re: I have the biggest one... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44009 That's why it pissed me off to hear what you said, after I had read a few other posts stating that the failure in reusability (which I think never happened) is because of "monkeys" that claim to be SEs, most of the students being there for...]]> Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:28:06 -0500 Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:28:06 -0500 Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:28:06 -0500 Jan 30, 2007 Eelco Hillenius 0 Re: I have the biggest one... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44009 Tue, 30 Jan 2007 16:28:03 -0500 Tue, 30 Jan 2007 16:28:03 -0500 Tue, 30 Jan 2007 16:28:03 -0500 Jan 30, 2007 C0nst@ntine V 1 Re: I have the biggest one... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44009
Instead of insulting them, I instead try to prove respect and kindness.
...]]> Tue, 30 Jan 2007 16:22:07 -0500 Tue, 30 Jan 2007 16:22:07 -0500 Tue, 30 Jan 2007 16:22:07 -0500 Jan 30, 2007 C0nst@ntine V 0 Re: I have the biggest one... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44009 Tue, 30 Jan 2007 15:17:57 -0500 Tue, 30 Jan 2007 15:17:57 -0500 Tue, 30 Jan 2007 15:17:57 -0500 Jan 30, 2007 Remi Vankeisbelck 3 Re: I have the biggest one... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44009 Remi, I don't know what you teach your students, ...]]> Tue, 30 Jan 2007 14:50:35 -0500 Tue, 30 Jan 2007 14:50:35 -0500 Tue, 30 Jan 2007 14:50:35 -0500 Jan 30, 2007 Remi Vankeisbelck 1 Re: I have the biggest one... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44009 However there are more than enough accidental "SEs" who have never actually studied CS, and many of them are indeed have absolutely no passion for what they do. I think we all agree that people like that give SEs a bad name. Such people...]]> Tue, 30 Jan 2007 13:16:49 -0500 Tue, 30 Jan 2007 13:16:49 -0500 Tue, 30 Jan 2007 13:16:49 -0500 Jan 30, 2007 Erik Engbrecht 0 Re: I have the biggest one... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44009 You seem to think that most students (and thereby future coders) are money-driven and don't pay any interest in what they learn. That they're just here to get a job, whatever it is, and work the less they can just to get paid at the end of...]]> Tue, 30 Jan 2007 11:51:23 -0500 Tue, 30 Jan 2007 11:51:23 -0500 Tue, 30 Jan 2007 11:51:23 -0500 Jan 30, 2007 Eelco Hillenius 4 Re: I have the biggest one... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44009
It's your oversized ego that seems to be hurt. Depending on the person, it can hurt bad, that's true.
But I should probably consider myself as a "sucking money driven monkey", and stop trying to talk to such a clever person......]]> Tue, 30 Jan 2007 10:02:10 -0500 Tue, 30 Jan 2007 10:02:10 -0500 Tue, 30 Jan 2007 10:02:10 -0500 Jan 30, 2007 C0nst@ntine V 3 Re: I have the biggest one... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44009 In some schools they teach people to read as well. Read my post again and see where I blame education for educating.
...]]> Tue, 30 Jan 2007 04:01:01 -0500 Tue, 30 Jan 2007 04:01:01 -0500 Tue, 30 Jan 2007 04:01:01 -0500 Jan 30, 2007 Remi Vankeisbelck 9 Re: I have the biggest one... http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44009 Precisely, that's what education is all about... educating !

Shall we just stop teaching because "many people suck" ?

C'mon... ...]]> Mon, 29 Jan 2007 19:01:56 -0500 Mon, 29 Jan 2007 19:01:56 -0500 Mon, 29 Jan 2007 19:01:56 -0500 Jan 29, 2007 Eelco Hillenius 10