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        <title>Re: Understanding the problem - One Soluton</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44186</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>By itself this doesn't seem to solve the problem. It merely moves it to another abstraction layer.<blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 06:55:42 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 06:55:42 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Feb 15, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Fintan Conway</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: JSF and &quot;THE TRAP!&quot; - CommandLinks and DataTables</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44186</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Btw., I do feel honored that my post led to this discussion. Seems like the only news item with more responses these last few days was Marc Fleurys resignment from red hat....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 16:33:30 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 16:33:30 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Feb 12, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Dominik Fieg</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Understanding the problem</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44186</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Wow, I remembered my login, finally. I would have signed up again, but the sign-up form wants too much information for just posting a comment....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 16:24:43 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 16:24:43 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Feb 12, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Dominik Fieg</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Understanding the problem - One Soluton</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44186</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>These POJO's have all of the information you need and JSF will provide you the POJO that represents the selected row during the response. ...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 11 Feb 2007 17:56:55 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sun, 11 Feb 2007 17:56:55 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Feb 11, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>augustientje bloem</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Understanding the problem - One Soluton</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44186</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>True, but in the end you do need something to more specifically identify the dataset that was used for rendering. Currently, the pointers you get after a user clicks a row are "view id", "component id", "row id" (where "row id" is actually...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 11 Feb 2007 15:15:04 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sun, 11 Feb 2007 15:15:04 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Feb 11, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Steven Murray</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>2</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: Understanding the problem - JSF id's</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44186</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 04:54:02 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 04:54:02 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Feb 10, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>augustientje bloem</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>3</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: There are 2 models</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44186</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>There's a model of the view (view-state), is it a web view or a swing app, and a business model.  Often a short circuit happens and the view state is directly linked to the (business)model state.  What makes things worse for webapps is that...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 23:13:34 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 23:13:34 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Feb 9, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Steven Murray</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: Understanding the problem - JSF id's</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44186</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>The way I see it, the core problem is that the datatable component renders markup that sends back sequential numbers.</blockquote>These sequential numbers we keep refering to are XML id's.  They are not intended to be used as dataset keys....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 23:02:25 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 23:02:25 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 23:02:25 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Feb 9, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Steven Murray</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>4</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: Understanding the problem</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44186</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I absolutely agree that the scenerio you present is accurate. My point is that you should not design a JSF web application like this. Now if you don't like this as an answer then you either need an alternative or another...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 16:26:31 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 16:26:31 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Feb 9, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>augustientje bloem</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>5</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: The problem with the Backing Bean concept taught with JSF</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44186</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Suppose a user has two views (i.e. a tab or window) on the same page and makes a click on a row in both of them. </blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 13:32:48 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 13:32:48 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Feb 9, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Chuck Adams</jf:author>
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        <title>There are 2 models</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44186</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I agree this is not an issue of JSF but general. Talking about MVC, the "model" concept is misleading....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 13:28:18 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 13:28:18 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Feb 9, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Daniele Gariboldi</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Post does make sense</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44186</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[pardons ... I must someday learn to use the CLOSE tag for blockquotes sometime.  Wouldn't it be neat if posts were validated for proper HTML?]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 13:25:27 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 13:25:27 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 13:25:27 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Feb 9, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Chuck Adams</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: Post does make sense</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44186</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>For example, suppose that we recreate the data model from a DB and between requests someone else deletes row 3, causing the other rows to shift one position. Using datatable's standard method of matching clicks to a datamodel row, the cursor...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 13:24:15 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 13:24:15 -0500</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 13:24:15 -0500</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Feb 9, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Chuck Adams</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>1</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: Understanding the problem</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44186</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I absolutely agree that the scenerio you present is accurate.  My point is that you should not design a JSF web application like this.  Now if you don't like this as an answer then you either need an alternative or another...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 08:46:12 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 08:46:12 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Feb 9, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Werner Punz</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>3</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: Understanding the problem</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44186</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>It seems like you don't really understand the problem ...</blockquote>No I understand the issue and the scenerio you describe is real.  However this has NOTHING to do with UIData model and has everything to do with peoples mis-conception of...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 07:42:27 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 07:42:27 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Feb 9, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Steven Murray</jf:author>
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