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        <title>Re: Coup de tat</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44211</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[This thread is a joke. Who got shafted... Who feels hurt... Who wants to blame someone else... Who feels they have lost out on money... Who thinks they are perfect... Yadda Yadda Yadda.......]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 11:20:45 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 15, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Simon Bisson</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Coup de tat</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44211</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Just a perfect opportunity for a JBoss person to say "I apologise for the misleading information ...", but noooo instead we just get more statements like "Log4J junk" and "lack of integrity of a few individuals". But then that's why people have such a...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 10:57:30 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 15, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Persistability Ltd</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: new generation</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44211</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Somone should set up jboss and gerongo, deploy a basic application that does some basic round tripping, run some performance tests. Put something in public. That would be nice ;-)]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 10:45:01 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 15, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Raymond Chow</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Coup de tat</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44211</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Bill Burke : <br><br><blockquote>Followed up by the attempt to funnel JBoss FSF licensed IP to the Geronimo project from the Elba fork(yes the copywrite claims were lame, blame the lawyers for pushing us in that direction, but the derivative...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 10:16:48 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 15, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Bill Burke</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Coup de tat</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44211</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Bill Burke : ...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 06:34:49 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 15, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Geir Magnusson Jr</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: new generation</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44211</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>Another good reason not to participate to this kind of open source project. Your code will only help those guys to make money on  your back and help Bill to buy "a brand new car" (so funny ;-)</blockquote><br>And can you tell us...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 15:35:28 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 14, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>David McCoy</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: new generation</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44211</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Andrew

<blockquote>The "product" that is JBoss has changed.</blockquote>

Yup you're right.  JBoss is more mature, feature complete, better documented, supported, managed, and maintained than it used to be.

Bill]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 10:58:29 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 14, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Bill Burke</jf:author>
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        <title>dooms day scenario</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44211</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Pretty negative outlook, Andrew, I still am trying to follow exactly what Marc did that all of you wouldn't have done, except if you listen to the analyst who would 'give' the $M's away.  Yeah, right......]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 10:53:59 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 14, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>douglas dooley</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Coup de tat</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44211</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Hi Bill,...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 10:49:53 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 14, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>wlouth</jf:author>
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        <title>Coup de tat</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44211</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Greg,...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 10:46:55 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 10:46:55 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Feb 14, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Bill Burke</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: new generation</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44211</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[So Marc gamed the system.  Good for him.  Would you work with him again.  He has to think about that going forward.  He has no gimmick just cash and the cost of doing business with Marc has gone up.  Chance is that JBoss gets Bluestoned to death.  Marc...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 09:33:42 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 14, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Andrew Clifford</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Evil Marc vs. the white sheeps</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44211</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>(Greg, you and your wife did it and made some money through the JBoss/RHT acquisition - good for you), while others stood up like a "Grand Prince" and refused it. </blockquote><br><br>Sacha,<br><br>JBoss shares were given to me as...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 09:18:18 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 14, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Jason Greene</jf:author>
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        <title>The Riddle of Steel</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44211</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[This all reminds me of the riddle of steel. ...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 08:33:16 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 14, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>wlouth</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: new generation</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44211</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[You've got to realise that Marc et al got their money for the JBoss business not the source code. There is an endless supply of open source code it's the business that is worth the money. Look at Linux, it's open source but Red Hat has made a business...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 07:27:50 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 14, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>John Davies</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: new generation</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44211</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Another good reason not to participate to this kind of open source project. Your code will only help those guys to make money on  your back and help Bill to buy "a brand new car" (so funny ;-)</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 06:58:56 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 14, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Henrique Steckelberg</jf:author>
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