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        <title>Re: Billy Berk cares?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45024</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>WHo cares?</blockquote><br>You care ... enough to post your usual biased drivel.</blockquote>
yeah, it's really astonshing ..... and not even entertaining anymore...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 05:01:10 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>May 8, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Christoph Henrici</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Billy Berk cares?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45024</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>WHo cares?</blockquote>
You care ... enough to post your usual biased drivel.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 13:22:27 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 19, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Persistability Ltd</jf:author>
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        <title>who cares?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45024</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>This is all done within context, I don't think you can overlook the position that Sun is not a non-for-profit and Java is their franchise, I would pay close attention to Harmony becoming the default SE platform, and would potentially...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 12:41:49 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 19, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Bill Burke</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Easier</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45024</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Yes, but will this get you any version you want (easy answer, no)? This methos also work on pre 7 releases.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 11:43:38 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 19, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Steven Goldsmith</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: I'm hoping</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45024</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>But, I think Sun's Java people are focused on one thing right now, preparing for the conference, so I'm not holding my breath for a response.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 13:55:42 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 18, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>IanSkerrett29</jf:author>
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        <title>I'm hoping</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45024</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[My comments on that post about GPL vs. BSD, are conjecture (only conjecture).  The only thing I can guess is that they just need time to discuss a real response.  I hope this is resolved for the sake of the platform, I hope Sun realizes that Harmony can...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 13:23:50 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 18, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Tim O'Brien</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>1</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: zzzzz</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45024</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Douglas Dooley : ...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 12:51:55 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 18, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Geir Magnusson Jr</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Sun's Initial Response to the Open Letter by Apache</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45024</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I think these points would make a useful addition to the FAQ, particularly paragraphs 3 and 4. ...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 05:51:33 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 18, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Panagiotis Astithas</jf:author>
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        <title>Easier</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45024</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[apt-get install sun-java6-jdk]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 04:50:56 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 18, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Alexander Zhukov</jf:author>
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        <title>Java 6 on Ubuntu</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45024</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[JDK and JRE 6 have been available for a long time as a regular package - but I think they are in the multiverse.  Steps to install:

enable multiverse
search for and install sun-java]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:03:20 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 17, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Donald Kittle</jf:author>
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        <title>zzzzz</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45024</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I read on ASF's site that the 2002 JSPA extension only applies to 5 projects, and it looks to me to further the cause of JAX, among basic app server implementations of servlets and JSPs.  Can you explain why Geronimo has been successful in its...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 14:37:32 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 17, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>douglas dooley</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Geir</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45024</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Douglas Dooley : ...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 06:47:04 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 17, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Geir Magnusson Jr</jf:author>
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        <title>taking the flamebait</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45024</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I should really stay out of this, since it's not my baby in any sense, and since I really don't know the issues well enough to have an opinion for or against Apache or Sun. But somehow, Doug's posts just keep sucking me in.......]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 01:12:35 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 17, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Patrick Linskey</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Geir</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45024</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[So you want an extension of the 2002 agreement, because you're Apache?  Not because you have a legitimate open source question, but just because it has been done this way in the past?  I don't see why this is not a business decision that Sun is able to...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 23:55:55 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 16, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>douglas dooley</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>7</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: Sun's Initial Response to the Open Letter by Apache</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45024</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Couple of things....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 21:20:51 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 16, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Geir Magnusson Jr</jf:author>
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