Support Forums: Message List - Zarar Siddiqi: Are JSPs Dead? http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Wed, 19 Jun 2013 10:21:27 -0400 JSP has got separation of concerns muddled http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45080 Reading these posts, I can't help but think people need to take the blinkers off and start looking at the bigger picture when it comes to real seperation of concerns and real reuse. My 2 cents worth, is that the 'view' should be what is...]]> Tue, 24 Apr 2007 17:23:48 -0400 Tue, 24 Apr 2007 17:23:48 -0400 Tue, 24 Apr 2007 17:23:48 -0400 Apr 24, 2007 Paul Copeland 0 Re: Zarar Siddiqi: Are JSPs Dead? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45080
So, are Zombies alive? :0


nice one _o_ :) I could have taken it in a really bad direction. As in .. if JSPs are dead and people are still messing with them, then that makes them ... :-&]]> Tue, 24 Apr 2007 12:39:07 -0400 Tue, 24 Apr 2007 12:39:07 -0400 Tue, 24 Apr 2007 12:39:07 -0400 Apr 24, 2007 Mark N 0 Keep things into perspective http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45080 Sat, 21 Apr 2007 11:26:27 -0400 Sat, 21 Apr 2007 11:26:27 -0400 Sat, 21 Apr 2007 11:26:27 -0400 Apr 21, 2007 Michael Klaene 0 Re: Zarar Siddiqi: Are JSPs Dead? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45080 So, are Zombies alive? :0 nice one _o_]]> Sat, 21 Apr 2007 10:08:12 -0400 Sat, 21 Apr 2007 10:08:12 -0400 Sat, 21 Apr 2007 10:08:12 -0400 Apr 21, 2007 Dennis Bekkering 2 Re: Zarar Siddiqi: Are JSPs Dead? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45080 Sat, 21 Apr 2007 07:18:17 -0400 Sat, 21 Apr 2007 07:18:17 -0400 Sat, 21 Apr 2007 07:18:17 -0400 Apr 21, 2007 Alexandre Poitras 0 Re: Zarar Siddiqi: Are JSPs Dead? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45080 Now please don't say that they are bad because they compile into Servlets, so its a negative point. Your code compiles into object code, so that must be a bad thing as well.....]]> Sat, 21 Apr 2007 07:17:31 -0400 Sat, 21 Apr 2007 07:17:31 -0400 Sat, 21 Apr 2007 07:17:31 -0400 Apr 21, 2007 Alexandre Poitras 1 My JSP Experience http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45080 Fri, 20 Apr 2007 17:54:43 -0400 Fri, 20 Apr 2007 17:54:43 -0400 Fri, 20 Apr 2007 17:54:43 -0400 Apr 20, 2007 Khun Yee Fung 0 JSPs are doing well, thank you http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45080 JSPs are the ultimate contradiction to Java reusability, there is simply no mechanism in J2EE which allows even an honest man to reuse a JSP., ...]]> Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:19:29 -0400 Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:19:29 -0400 Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:19:29 -0400 Apr 20, 2007 Michael Jouravlev 0 Re: Zarar Siddiqi: Are JSPs Dead? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45080 Fri, 20 Apr 2007 11:03:06 -0400 Fri, 20 Apr 2007 11:03:06 -0400 Fri, 20 Apr 2007 11:03:06 -0400 Apr 20, 2007 Surjendu Kuila 0 Re: Reuse isn't an end goal http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45080
I think seeing reuse everywhere is often counter-productive.


A-men. This holy grail of "reuse" has been the cause of some of the biggest cluster****'s of frameworks I've ever seen. Don't misread me here;...]]> Fri, 20 Apr 2007 10:04:48 -0400 Fri, 20 Apr 2007 10:04:48 -0400 Fri, 20 Apr 2007 10:04:48 -0400 Apr 20, 2007 Peter Thomas 0 missing HTML is suddenly the biggest mistake we all ever do ? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45080 Fri, 20 Apr 2007 09:19:09 -0400 Fri, 20 Apr 2007 09:19:09 -0400 Fri, 20 Apr 2007 09:19:09 -0400 Apr 20, 2007 Denny Mahendra 0 Reuse isn't an end goal http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45080 I think seeing reuse everywhere is often counter-productive. /blockquote>...]]> Fri, 20 Apr 2007 08:57:16 -0400 Fri, 20 Apr 2007 08:57:16 -0400 Fri, 20 Apr 2007 08:57:16 -0400 Apr 20, 2007 michael campbell 1 Re: Zarar Siddiqi: Are JSPs Dead? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45080 Fri, 20 Apr 2007 06:43:09 -0400 Fri, 20 Apr 2007 06:43:09 -0400 Fri, 20 Apr 2007 06:43:09 -0400 Apr 20, 2007 Karl Banke 0 Re: very biased comparison http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45080 it is bad and ugly because you did not take it to the next level, it's called the "component architecture"...]]> Fri, 20 Apr 2007 05:45:35 -0400 Fri, 20 Apr 2007 05:45:35 -0400 Fri, 20 Apr 2007 05:45:35 -0400 Apr 20, 2007 Peter Thomas 0 Re: Zarar Siddiqi: Are JSPs Dead? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45080 Fri, 20 Apr 2007 05:44:17 -0400 Fri, 20 Apr 2007 05:44:17 -0400 Fri, 20 Apr 2007 05:44:17 -0400 Apr 20, 2007 William Gleeson 2