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        <title>Scary thought: maybe those who say they can't do TDD are right</title>
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        <title>No silver bullet?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45215</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Gosh ! Maybe there is no silver bullet ......]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 15:50:19 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>May 8, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Javier Diaz</jf:author>
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        <title>Here is what we could not do with TDD</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45215</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<div class="jive-quote"><div class="jive-quote"><div class="jive-quote"><i>"Maybe they should describe what it is that they can’t do, and you can tell if the thing they can't do is the same thing that you are wanting them to do. "</i></div></div></div>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 13:23:47 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>May 6, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Gorkey Vemulapalli</jf:author>
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        <title>Strict TDD may never work</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45215</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[There have been many suggestions in this thread as to why TDD may not be suitable.  One of the best I read (and experienced) is the fact that often requirements are patchy and changing.  I also think that concentrating too much on the test upfront (or...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 17:24:37 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>May 4, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Juan Jimenez</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Scary thought: maybe those who say they can't do TDD are rig</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45215</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Strange enough....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 13:01:17 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>May 4, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Guido Anzuoni</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Examples of TDD turnaway</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45215</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>Can you elaborate on this comment? Can someone tell me the approximate percentage of those that embraced it, but have turned away from it? And why they turned away from it?</blockquote><br><br>I have seen a number of projects /...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 07:54:15 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>May 4, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Anthony Jayasekera</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Carts and horses</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45215</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[There was an interesting interview (on Artima?) with two people behind a Ruby testing approach. They had avoided the term TDD in favour of "Responsibility-Driven Development", and not just out of a desire to be contrary. They argued (quite persuasively,...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 00:06:17 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>May 4, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Christopher Rodrigues Macias</jf:author>
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        <title>Carts and horses</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45215</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I don't want my team's D to be driven by T at all.  I want my team's D to be driven by customer desires....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 17:58:03 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>May 3, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Ethan Allen</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Up with arrogance</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45215</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Most developers do *no* TDD at all.  It's about time we started listening to these people instead of trying to lecture them.<br><br>-- <br>Cedric</blockquote>

Yes! Testing is for suckers.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 16:43:26 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>May 3, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Race Condition</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Up with arrogance</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>Oh and one more thing "It might mean that they lack the ability or knowledge." sounds quite arrogant</blockquote><br><br>If postulating about one possibility rather than declaring it to be unequivocally so is arrogant, then may we...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 12:55:24 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>May 3, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Cedric Beust</jf:author>
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        <title>I agree they are right</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>The next word is "can't" and that's an interesting word, too. It might mean that they lack the ability or knowledge. That's ideal, because such things can be taught and can be led. The other sense is that they are not allowed. If it's like...]]></description>
        

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        <jf:author>Bryant Harris</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Up with arrogance</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45215</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>Oh and one more thing "It might mean that they lack the ability or knowledge." sounds quite arrogant</blockquote><br><br>If postulating about one possibility rather than declaring it to be unequivocally so is arrogant, then may we...]]></description>
        

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        <jf:author>Karl Banke</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Examples of TDD turnaway</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45215</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Can you elaborate on this comment? Can someone tell me the approximate percentage of those that embraced it, but have turned away from it? And why they turned away from it?</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 03:14:39 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>May 3, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Karl Banke</jf:author>
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        <title>Up with arrogance</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45215</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Oh and one more thing "It might mean that they lack the ability or knowledge." sounds quite arrogant</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 17:40:24 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>May 2, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Justin Lee</jf:author>
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