Support Forums: Message List - Provocative Analysis: Spring Persistence or EJB? http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Sat, 18 May 2013 18:21:54 -0400 Re: Provocative Analysis: Spring Persistence or EJB? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45744 So you like wrapping, depending on the context... Do you have any rules of thumb where you recommend wrapping over not wrapping?...]]> Thu, 21 Jun 2007 09:40:58 -0400 Thu, 21 Jun 2007 09:40:58 -0400 Thu, 21 Jun 2007 09:40:58 -0400 Jun 21, 2007 Ilari Aalto 0 Re: portability and downloads http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45744 Solomon,

I am not saying that add-on development tools beyond the JEE spec. are inherently bad for developers, but I do think that a restriction on what is portable means that it is a proprietary architecture......]]> Tue, 19 Jun 2007 16:42:57 -0400 Tue, 19 Jun 2007 16:42:57 -0400 Tue, 19 Jun 2007 16:42:57 -0400 Jun 19, 2007 Solomon Duskis 0 portability and downloads http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45744 Tue, 19 Jun 2007 14:34:51 -0400 Tue, 19 Jun 2007 14:34:51 -0400 Tue, 19 Jun 2007 14:34:51 -0400 Jun 19, 2007 douglas dooley 1 Re: Provocative Analysis: Spring Persistence or EJB? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45744 Tue, 19 Jun 2007 08:24:45 -0400 Tue, 19 Jun 2007 08:24:45 -0400 Tue, 19 Jun 2007 08:24:45 -0400 Jun 19, 2007 Solomon Duskis 1 Re: Provocative Analysis: Spring Persistence or EJB? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45744
Regarding Spring usage:
I'm not that keen on trying to wrap a dependency (to JEE) with another dependency (to Spring). Even if it involves tons of lovely Spring configuration XML ;) So just say no to Spring and get a...]]> Tue, 19 Jun 2007 05:39:43 -0400 Tue, 19 Jun 2007 05:39:43 -0400 Tue, 19 Jun 2007 05:39:43 -0400 Jun 19, 2007 Ilari Aalto 2 Re: Dear Solomon http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45744 I admit to being under-educated on the execution of Spring in an app server environment, but r u telling me that the apps that r derived from spring are portable across app servers, i could care less about whether spring itself can deploy to...]]> Mon, 18 Jun 2007 17:29:26 -0400 Mon, 18 Jun 2007 17:29:26 -0400 Mon, 18 Jun 2007 17:29:26 -0400 Jun 18, 2007 Rodrigo Cana 0 Re: Dear Solomon http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45744 I admit to being under-educated on the execution of Spring in an app server environment, but r u telling me that the apps that r derived from spring are portable across app servers, i could care less about whether spring itself can deploy to...]]> Mon, 18 Jun 2007 16:07:59 -0400 Mon, 18 Jun 2007 16:07:59 -0400 Mon, 18 Jun 2007 16:07:59 -0400 Jun 18, 2007 Solomon Duskis 2 Dear Solomon http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45744 Mon, 18 Jun 2007 13:59:27 -0400 Mon, 18 Jun 2007 13:59:27 -0400 Mon, 18 Jun 2007 13:59:27 -0400 Jun 18, 2007 douglas dooley 4 Re: tracking opportunities http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45744 As this is a competitive market, i don't see why a competitive feature of most vendors would b to b more explicit about what their download, project-based, and deployment numbers r, such as how many r in deployment of EJB3 apps, without...]]> Mon, 18 Jun 2007 12:12:06 -0400 Mon, 18 Jun 2007 12:12:06 -0400 Mon, 18 Jun 2007 12:12:06 -0400 Jun 18, 2007 Solomon Duskis 0 Re: tracking opportunities http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45744 As this is a competitive market, i don't see why a competitive feature of most vendors would b to b more explicit about what their download, project-based, and deployment numbers r, such as how many r in deployment of EJB3 apps, without...]]> Mon, 18 Jun 2007 12:09:08 -0400 Mon, 18 Jun 2007 12:09:08 -0400 Mon, 18 Jun 2007 12:09:08 -0400 Jun 18, 2007 Solomon Duskis 5 Re: Numbers and momentum http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45744 Being a zealot or emotionally attached to certain technology does not help.
Oh yes, I know very well that any attempt to be a little more rigorous and precise is quite often labelled as being zealot. Guido.]]> Mon, 18 Jun 2007 03:19:20 -0400 Mon, 18 Jun 2007 03:19:20 -0400 Mon, 18 Jun 2007 03:19:20 -0400 Jun 18, 2007 Guido Anzuoni 0 Re: Numbers and momentum http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45744 Sun, 17 Jun 2007 23:33:31 -0400 Sun, 17 Jun 2007 23:33:31 -0400 Sun, 17 Jun 2007 23:33:31 -0400 Jun 17, 2007 Pranab Ghosh 1 Re: Provocative Analysis: Spring Persistence or EJB? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45744
:) Interesting... but what happens if you have a Spring/Hibernate job and you have one great candidate skilled EJB3 and one skilled in Spring/Hibernate... which would you choose?


All things being equal you...]]> Sun, 17 Jun 2007 08:48:14 -0400 Sun, 17 Jun 2007 08:48:14 -0400 Sun, 17 Jun 2007 08:48:14 -0400 Jun 17, 2007 Solomon Duskis 0 Re: Provocative Analysis: Spring Persistence or EJB? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45744 :) Interesting... but what happens if you have a Spring/Hibernate job and you have one great candidate skilled EJB3 and one skilled in Spring/Hibernate... which would you choose?...]]> Sun, 17 Jun 2007 06:18:48 -0400 Sun, 17 Jun 2007 06:18:48 -0400 Sun, 17 Jun 2007 06:18:48 -0400 Jun 17, 2007 Code Flunki 1 Re: Provocative Analysis: Spring Persistence or EJB? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=45744 Quite honestly I think if you are hiring for EJB and you have in front of you an excellant candidate who is skilled in 'Spring persistence', or, if you hiring for 'Spring persistence' and you have in front of you an excellant candidate who is...]]> Sat, 16 Jun 2007 22:07:38 -0400 Sat, 16 Jun 2007 22:07:38 -0400 Sat, 16 Jun 2007 22:07:38 -0400 Jun 16, 2007 Solomon Duskis 2