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        <title>not so fast there Bill Burke (EJB 3.0 O'reily book author)</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46041</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[so what if someone agrees with you that spring sucks.  EJB 3.0 isn't good either.  Whatever happened to just writing a class and using servlets?  Elephant in the room.  You really do not need a framework even for large projects. There is just too much...]]></description>
        

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        <title>Re: jyog sucks</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46041</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I think that u r a school boy, who comes here to learn spellings.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 00:35:10 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <title>Re: Arif Rachim: Five Reasons I think I won't use Spring</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46041</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Just one last post....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 11:25:11 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 11:25:11 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jul 12, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Rodrigo Jardim</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Arif Rachim: Five Reasons I think I won't use Spring</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46041</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Oh, I read your text <br><br>"We have used Spring and Dependency Injection in a large project, and the result is ugly. You end up with tons of configuration files, and increase the complexity of the project. I have experienced countless hours...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 11:17:07 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 11:17:07 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jul 12, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Rodrigo Jardim</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: There's a difference!</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46041</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Furthermore EJB3 uses a limited form of AOP while Spring uses a full one (or more than one AOP implementation if you want)<br><br>Daniele</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 11:08:36 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>Rodrigo Jardim</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Arif Rachim: Five Reasons I think I won't use Spring</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46041</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Five reasons for not choosing for Spring is not a lot. ...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 02:07:22 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 10, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Urs Peter</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Arif Rachim: Five Reasons I think I won't use Spring</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46041</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>"Don't blame the tool, blame the user and speak for yourself. You used Spring inappropriately and you turned every class into a service."<br><br>You obviously did not read my text.  I said: "Dependency Injection itself is not a bad idea, if...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 21:00:41 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 9, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Jim Shi</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Arif Rachim: Five Reasons I think I won't use Spring</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46041</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Arif doesn't know what he's talking about.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 12:25:55 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 9, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Mike Zatko</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: How about this for benefits</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46041</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Matthew, for what it's worth, Guice supports @Transactional, too. You can use Spring's implementation directly (and many people do).]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 23:57:18 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 6, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Bob Lee</jf:author>
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        <title>How about this for benefits</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Here's one huge benefit of spring:...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 13:26:41 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 6, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Matthew Inger</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: How hard is creating objects anyway?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46041</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>&gt; XML for defining structures is not bad: <br><br>Are they typed check? Do they show up in the code? Are they refactorable? Do I know where they are in the file system? How do I tell what all the magic elements mean or do?<br><br>That's...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 09:57:03 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 6, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>David McCoy</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Please show some code?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>It would be helpful if someone could show some code that demonstrated the benefits. Do you have some that makes it clear ? I simply don't see when using springified projects.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 09:54:38 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>David McCoy</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: [Name]: [Number] Reasons I think [Action | Emtion] [Product]</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46041</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>Come on. This must be the worst post so far this year.</blockquote><br><br>Well, that's certainly not for a lack of competition .. ;-)<br><br>Peace,<br><br>Cameron Purdy<br><a href="http://www.tangosol.com/">Oracle Coherence: The...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 02:09:05 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 6, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>George Coller</jf:author>
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        <title>EJB3 - Spring - Architecture or not</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46041</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Hmm.. Yes, I do agree with you on one point.. Maybe it's because nowadays no one can clearly say what an architecute is.. On my side, I prefer to be practical and not go into deep arguements about buzzwords.. Yes, with Spring, you can use the...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 17:45:33 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 5, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Fatih Algan</jf:author>
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        <title>Please show some code?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46041</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[It would be helpful if someone could show some code that demonstrated the benefits. Do you have some that makes it clear ? I simply don't see when using springified projects.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 11:52:27 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 5, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>valraven smith</jf:author>
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