Support Forums: Message List - WebGalileo Faces releases components as open source http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Fri, 24 May 2013 21:12:35 -0400 Re: Commercial java tools RIP? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46203 Where i strongly disagree with you is that the business model of providing services for open source product 'seems to work in practice today'....]]> Wed, 18 Jul 2007 06:06:18 -0400 Wed, 18 Jul 2007 06:06:18 -0400 Wed, 18 Jul 2007 06:06:18 -0400 Jul 18, 2007 Mikael G ueck 0 Re: Commercial java tools RIP? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46203 I'm pretty sure the Spring developers get paid. Why not use that model, which seems to work in practise today, and even better than the model it has replaced?

But perhaps I'm not getting what you really mean?...]]> Wed, 18 Jul 2007 05:13:39 -0400 Wed, 18 Jul 2007 05:13:39 -0400 Wed, 18 Jul 2007 05:13:39 -0400 Jul 18, 2007 Henri Karapuu 1 Re: Commercial java tools RIP? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46203 I can't personally see how/why removing the possibility of financial success would increase quality of frameworks and tools....]]> Wed, 18 Jul 2007 04:51:07 -0400 Wed, 18 Jul 2007 04:51:07 -0400 Wed, 18 Jul 2007 04:51:07 -0400 Jul 18, 2007 Mikael G ueck 2 Re: Commercial java tools RIP? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46203 ...]]> Wed, 18 Jul 2007 02:31:49 -0400 Wed, 18 Jul 2007 02:31:49 -0400 Wed, 18 Jul 2007 02:31:49 -0400 Jul 18, 2007 Henri Karapuu 0 Re: Commercial java tools RIP? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46203 So basically wicket project would get income of $200 x number of users per year. And the question was wouldn't wicket be more advanced that way?...]]> Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:40:46 -0400 Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:40:46 -0400 Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:40:46 -0400 Jul 17, 2007 Eelco Hillenius 1 Re: Commercial java tools RIP? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46203
If it would be norm in our industry that people pay 200 USD per developer per year for a web framework, where would you imagine Wicket would be today with the additional resources, i.e. 10 hired full time developers?
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I'm not so sure. I wouldn't mind to get paid for all the hours I spend on participating in open source projects myself (I could've bought a house from that by now), but it is not my main motivation, and neither is it the...]]> Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:40:05 -0400 Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:40:05 -0400 Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:40:05 -0400 Jul 17, 2007 Eelco Hillenius 3 Re: Commercial java tools RIP? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46203 ...]]> Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:25:26 -0400 Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:25:26 -0400 Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:25:26 -0400 Jul 17, 2007 Henri Karapuu 0 Re: Commercial java tools RIP? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46203 I'm not so sure. I wouldn't mind to get paid for all the hours I spend on participating in open source projects myself (I could've bought a house from that by now), but it is not my main motivation, and neither is it the motivation of *any*...]]> Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:16:44 -0400 Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:16:44 -0400 Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:16:44 -0400 Jul 17, 2007 Henri Karapuu 4 Re: Mixing components from different sets http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46203 Tue, 17 Jul 2007 14:54:09 -0400 Tue, 17 Jul 2007 14:54:09 -0400 Tue, 17 Jul 2007 14:54:09 -0400 Jul 17, 2007 Delphi's Ghost 0 Re: Commercial java tools RIP? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46203
I can't personally see how/why removing the possibility of financial success would increase quality of frameworks and tools.

Quite the opposite, if Java community would be used to paying for frameworks i think we would see...]]> Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:35:27 -0400 Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:35:27 -0400 Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:35:27 -0400 Jul 17, 2007 Eelco Hillenius 0 Re: Commercial java tools RIP? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46203 I can't personally see how/why removing the possibility of financial success would increase quality of frameworks and tools.

Quite the opposite, if Java community would be used to paying for frameworks i think we would see much more...]]> Tue, 17 Jul 2007 12:34:23 -0400 Tue, 17 Jul 2007 12:34:23 -0400 Tue, 17 Jul 2007 12:34:23 -0400 Jul 17, 2007 Eelco Hillenius 7 Re: Commercial java tools RIP? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46203 f this open sourcification means that we'll have more offerings like Spring which actually deliver the long term value they promise, and less offerings that push 800kb of JavaScript to fill some perceived need for bling that exists only in...]]> Tue, 17 Jul 2007 11:02:14 -0400 Tue, 17 Jul 2007 11:02:14 -0400 Tue, 17 Jul 2007 11:02:14 -0400 Jul 17, 2007 Henri Karapuu 11 Re: Mixing components from different sets http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46203 While this may not be getting "off topic" my question is this, is WebGallio...]]> Tue, 17 Jul 2007 10:29:40 -0400 Tue, 17 Jul 2007 10:29:40 -0400 Tue, 17 Jul 2007 10:29:40 -0400 Jul 17, 2007 Werner Punz 0 Re: Mixing components from different sets http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46203 Tue, 17 Jul 2007 08:43:34 -0400 Tue, 17 Jul 2007 08:43:34 -0400 Tue, 17 Jul 2007 08:43:34 -0400 Jul 17, 2007 Steven Murray 1