Support Forums: Message List - EL vs Dependency Injection http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Wed, 19 Jun 2013 07:34:49 -0400 Re: JSF vs Spring Managed Beans http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46222 Let me rephrase this in terms of Spring and JSF. If you use Spring DI in JSF then you still use EL. So my point here is that EL is complimentary to DI. ...]]> Fri, 20 Jul 2007 14:13:50 -0400 Fri, 20 Jul 2007 14:13:50 -0400 Fri, 20 Jul 2007 14:13:50 -0400 Jul 20, 2007 Henri Karapuu 0 Re: JSF vs Spring Managed Beans http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46222 While you express this as only personal opinion, it is one of the most strange personal opinions i'v heard. Spring is the one that popularized the entire concept of DI, it is the benchmark of DI, and still to date the most full featured...]]> Fri, 20 Jul 2007 13:36:24 -0400 Fri, 20 Jul 2007 13:36:24 -0400 Fri, 20 Jul 2007 13:36:24 -0400 Jul 20, 2007 Steven Murray 1 Re: JSF vs Spring Managed Beans http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46222 Fri, 20 Jul 2007 05:10:49 -0400 Fri, 20 Jul 2007 05:10:49 -0400 Fri, 20 Jul 2007 05:10:49 -0400 Jul 20, 2007 Henri Karapuu 2 Re: EL vs Dependency Injection http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46222
Spring container is way more convenient than JSF container. Its not only "xml" somewhere. You can easily add AOP functionalities on Spring managed bean: AOP/JMX, Logging, generic Error&Exception Handling (I like this one), but...]]> Fri, 20 Jul 2007 04:54:24 -0400 Fri, 20 Jul 2007 04:54:24 -0400 Fri, 20 Jul 2007 04:54:24 -0400 Jul 20, 2007 Werner Punz 0 Re: EL vs Dependency Injection http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46222
You can skip using managed-beans entirely, and use Spring beans instead.

Why are Spring-managed beans better than (JSF, presumably) managed beans? Both are beans configured $SOMEWHERE using XML or annotations and...]]> Fri, 20 Jul 2007 04:52:36 -0400 Fri, 20 Jul 2007 04:52:36 -0400 Fri, 20 Jul 2007 04:52:36 -0400 Jul 20, 2007 Werner Punz 0 JSF vs Spring Managed Beans http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46222 Thu, 19 Jul 2007 13:06:49 -0400 Thu, 19 Jul 2007 13:06:49 -0400 Thu, 19 Jul 2007 13:06:49 -0400 Jul 19, 2007 Steven Murray 3 Re: EL vs Dependency Injection http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46222 Spring container is way more convenient than JSF container. Its not only "xml" somewhere. You can easily add AOP functionalities on Spring managed bean: AOP/JMX, Logging, generic Error&Exception Handling (I like this one), but also...]]> Thu, 19 Jul 2007 11:12:06 -0400 Thu, 19 Jul 2007 11:12:06 -0400 Thu, 19 Jul 2007 11:12:06 -0400 Jul 19, 2007 Jason Lee 1 Re: EL vs Dependency Injection http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46222 ...]]> Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:17:32 -0400 Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:17:32 -0400 Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:17:32 -0400 Jul 19, 2007 etienne laverdiere 6 Re: EL vs Dependency Injection http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46222 You can skip using managed-beans entirely, and use Spring beans instead.
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