Support Forums: Message List - Interface21 announces Spring Web Services 1.0 http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Sat, 18 May 2013 23:24:45 -0400 Re: Contract-first is supported by pretty much everyone http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46635 Thu, 30 Aug 2007 05:14:34 -0400 Thu, 30 Aug 2007 05:14:34 -0400 Thu, 30 Aug 2007 05:14:34 -0400 Aug 30, 2007 Davide Gesino 0 Re: Contract-first is supported by pretty much everyone http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46635 OK, I can see how that would solve the problem and in this case the bi-directional relationship should potentially exist in any case. We didn't actually have a domain model when I dealt with this. We were also bound to JAXB generated classes...]]> Tue, 28 Aug 2007 13:43:27 -0400 Tue, 28 Aug 2007 13:43:27 -0400 Tue, 28 Aug 2007 13:43:27 -0400 Aug 28, 2007 Blaise Doughan 1 Re: Contract first http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46635


Because Java data structures and XML data structures aren't the same?

Because auto-generated XML-Java bindings are brittle and kill the possibility of re-using common schemas? Common schemas allow you to define a...]]> Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:36:14 -0400 Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:36:14 -0400 Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:36:14 -0400 Aug 28, 2007 James Watson 0 Contract first http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46635

Because Java data structures and XML data structures aren't the same?

Because auto-generated XML-Java bindings are brittle and kill the possibility of re-using common schemas? Common schemas allow you to define a common...]]> Tue, 28 Aug 2007 03:14:13 -0400 Tue, 28 Aug 2007 03:14:13 -0400 Tue, 28 Aug 2007 03:14:13 -0400 Aug 28, 2007 Karl Banke 1 Re: Contract-first is supported by pretty much everyone http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46635 In this specific use case if you have control over your object model the solution is straight forward. I would make the relationship between Item and Box bi-directional (in your object model) and then in the object-to-XML mapping metadata...]]> Mon, 27 Aug 2007 11:40:33 -0400 Mon, 27 Aug 2007 11:40:33 -0400 Mon, 27 Aug 2007 11:40:33 -0400 Aug 27, 2007 James Watson 2 Re: Contract-first is supported by pretty much everyone http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46635 I think maybe I didn't explain it well enough. The data coming from the core system looked like this:

item: 1
box: A
quant: 5
box: B
quant: 5
item: 2
box: A
quant: 10
item: 3
...]]> Mon, 27 Aug 2007 10:52:22 -0400 Mon, 27 Aug 2007 10:52:22 -0400 Mon, 27 Aug 2007 10:52:22 -0400 Aug 27, 2007 Blaise Doughan 3 Re: Unfathomable http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46635 70 or so posts about "contract first webservices". Just incredible. A Java Interface is an excellent interface and a contract. THAT IS WHAT IT IS DESIGNED FOR.

Why it should be better to design an unreadable xml structure than to...]]> Mon, 27 Aug 2007 10:08:00 -0400 Mon, 27 Aug 2007 10:08:00 -0400 Mon, 27 Aug 2007 10:08:00 -0400 Aug 27, 2007 Jason Carreira 2 Unfathomable http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46635 Mon, 27 Aug 2007 09:44:10 -0400 Mon, 27 Aug 2007 09:44:10 -0400 Mon, 27 Aug 2007 09:44:10 -0400 Aug 27, 2007 Karl Banke 3 Re: Contract-first is supported by pretty much everyone http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46635 Fri, 24 Aug 2007 16:36:53 -0400 Fri, 24 Aug 2007 16:36:53 -0400 Fri, 24 Aug 2007 16:36:53 -0400 Aug 24, 2007 James Watson 4 Re: Contract-first is supported by pretty much everyone http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46635 Thanks for the link. I looked at the examples and it looks pretty straight-forward for simple xml to object mappings.

However, one challenge I have faced in the past is how to do complex mappings. For example, once I had to deal with...]]> Fri, 24 Aug 2007 13:02:50 -0400 Fri, 24 Aug 2007 13:02:50 -0400 Fri, 24 Aug 2007 13:02:50 -0400 Aug 24, 2007 Blaise Doughan 5 Re: Contract-first is supported by pretty much everyone http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46635
I want to bind to my own (or my team members') custom objects. Binding and generating are two distinct activities.


A fact that's been largely missed by the Java XML frameworks,...]]> Fri, 24 Aug 2007 12:48:41 -0400 Fri, 24 Aug 2007 12:48:41 -0400 Fri, 24 Aug 2007 12:48:41 -0400 Aug 24, 2007 Mike Keith 0 Re: Contract-first is supported by pretty much everyone http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46635
Thanks for pointing this out. I went to the EclipseLink project and poked around the wiki but didn't find much. Is there somewhere you can point me to that explains their approach to this?


Eventually there...]]> Fri, 24 Aug 2007 11:15:20 -0400 Fri, 24 Aug 2007 11:15:20 -0400 Fri, 24 Aug 2007 11:15:20 -0400 Aug 24, 2007 James Watson 6 Re: Contract-first is supported by pretty much everyone http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46635 Thanks for pointing this out. I went to the EclipseLink project and poked around the wiki but didn't find much. Is there somewhere you can point me to that explains their approach to this?
...]]> Fri, 24 Aug 2007 10:26:20 -0400 Fri, 24 Aug 2007 10:26:20 -0400 Fri, 24 Aug 2007 10:26:20 -0400 Aug 24, 2007 Blaise Doughan 7 Re: WS transaction http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46635 Probably not much at this point. If you are interested in a WS-AT implementation Spring WS is not going to provide that just as Spring-WS does not aim at providing a SOAP stack. It does help you use some WS-* stuff, for example, WS-Security...]]> Fri, 24 Aug 2007 05:44:25 -0400 Fri, 24 Aug 2007 05:44:25 -0400 Fri, 24 Aug 2007 05:44:25 -0400 Aug 24, 2007 Michael Quinn 0 Re: WS transaction http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46635 Thu, 23 Aug 2007 19:44:37 -0400 Thu, 23 Aug 2007 19:44:37 -0400 Thu, 23 Aug 2007 19:44:37 -0400 Aug 23, 2007 Satadru Roy 1