I'd honestly rather seen JSFT expand/enhance Facelets' model, but that's left for more of a private discussion

It's a pity that JSFTemplating is introducing another codebase where there already exists a...]]> Fri, 19 Oct 2007 01:00:41 -0400 Fri, 19 Oct 2007 01:00:41 -0400 Fri, 19 Oct 2007 01:00:41 -0400 Oct 19, 2007 Ken Paulsen 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46672 I'd honestly rather seen JSFT expand/enhance Facelets' model, but that's left for more of a private discussion

It's a pity that JSFTemplating is introducing another codebase where there already exists a templating...]]> Fri, 14 Sep 2007 20:02:41 -0400 Fri, 14 Sep 2007 20:02:41 -0400 Fri, 14 Sep 2007 20:02:41 -0400 Sep 14, 2007 Ed Burns 1 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46672 I'd honestly rather seen JSFT expand/enhance Facelets' model, but that's left for more of a private discussion...]]> Tue, 04 Sep 2007 06:27:51 -0400 Tue, 04 Sep 2007 06:27:51 -0400 Tue, 04 Sep 2007 06:27:51 -0400 Sep 4, 2007 joost de vries 2 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46672

No my friend I won't going to look into JSF 1.2; I will wait for version 5.0 or later :-); when JSF team will really learn what it means to deliver a server side control for webs. And yes just to let you know the object of my...]]> Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:23:18 -0400 Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:23:18 -0400 Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:23:18 -0400 Aug 30, 2007 Rashid Jilani 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46672 No my friend I won't going to look into JSF 1.2; I will wait for version 5.0 or later :-); when JSF team will really learn what it means to deliver a server side control for webs. And yes just to let you know the object of my speaking is not...]]> Thu, 30 Aug 2007 13:07:31 -0400 Thu, 30 Aug 2007 13:07:31 -0400 Thu, 30 Aug 2007 13:07:31 -0400 Aug 30, 2007 alberto gori 1 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46672

They made every thing a joke. Some time I am amaze who is running the show in Java world and do they have any common sense or not. They took JSP and made it notoriously complex and guess what we have got after 4 years; competing...]]> Thu, 30 Aug 2007 10:32:54 -0400 Thu, 30 Aug 2007 10:32:54 -0400 Thu, 30 Aug 2007 10:32:54 -0400 Aug 30, 2007 Rashid Jilani 2 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46672 Thu, 30 Aug 2007 08:44:40 -0400 Thu, 30 Aug 2007 08:44:40 -0400 Thu, 30 Aug 2007 08:44:40 -0400 Aug 30, 2007 Steven Murray 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46672

I have proffesional experience in JSF and eventually made a template in plain java code, that worked out well. It was tricky to set up though because the API is very verbose and tedious. JSF needs to be simplified. The concept is...]]> Thu, 30 Aug 2007 08:41:02 -0400 Thu, 30 Aug 2007 08:41:02 -0400 Thu, 30 Aug 2007 08:41:02 -0400 Aug 30, 2007 Dennis Bekkering 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46672

They made every thing a joke. Some time I am amaze who is running the show in Java world and do they have any common sense or not. They took JSP and made it notoriously complex and guess what we have got after 4 years; competing...]]> Thu, 30 Aug 2007 05:30:37 -0400 Thu, 30 Aug 2007 05:30:37 -0400 Thu, 30 Aug 2007 05:30:37 -0400 Aug 30, 2007 Werner Punz 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46672 They made every thing a joke. Some time I am amaze who is running the show in Java world and do they have any common sense or not. They took JSP and made it notoriously complex and guess what we have got after 4 years; competing templates,...]]> Thu, 30 Aug 2007 03:00:33 -0400 Thu, 30 Aug 2007 03:00:33 -0400 Thu, 30 Aug 2007 03:00:33 -0400 Aug 30, 2007 alberto gori 4 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46672

I do appreciate that any technology follows an evolutionary path, but whenever I look into JSF I find a whole stream of libraries and 'add-ons' with the goal of 'Simplifying' JSF. My gut reaction is that a technology (especially...]]> Wed, 29 Aug 2007 23:46:32 -0400 Wed, 29 Aug 2007 23:46:32 -0400 Wed, 29 Aug 2007 23:46:32 -0400 Aug 29, 2007 hookomjj 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46672 I do appreciate that any technology follows an evolutionary path, but whenever I look into JSF I find a whole stream of libraries and 'add-ons' with the goal of 'Simplifying' JSF. My gut reaction is that a technology (especially one that is...]]> Wed, 29 Aug 2007 22:14:59 -0400 Wed, 29 Aug 2007 22:14:59 -0400 Wed, 29 Aug 2007 22:14:59 -0400 Aug 29, 2007 Rashid Jilani 6 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46672 I personally would love to see a different approach of having one component and one template and a set of tools classes pushed as helpers into the template (sort of the approach Turbine does on high level with velocity)
As for the JSP...]]> Wed, 29 Aug 2007 16:32:51 -0400 Wed, 29 Aug 2007 16:32:51 -0400 Wed, 29 Aug 2007 16:32:51 -0400 Aug 29, 2007 Kito Mann 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46672 I want to be careful on syntax vs. features when you compare Facelets to JSFT. Yes, you could use Facelets' XML approach to conventional XML syntax (@see JSPX), but that's where it stops.

...]]> Wed, 29 Aug 2007 15:35:17 -0400 Wed, 29 Aug 2007 15:35:17 -0400 Wed, 29 Aug 2007 15:35:17 -0400 Aug 29, 2007 Jason Lee 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46672 I think JSFTemplating provides a good solution for a component "Template", in fact if you prefer a different syntax (such as Facelets) it offers that too.

Ken

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