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        <title>Re: RSF advantages</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46943</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[+1, but I'd add also that once you've made a choice, it can become a trap to prefer the one you picked.  technologies change.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:22:53 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:22:53 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Nov 19, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Jonathan Locke</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: RSF advantages</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46943</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I personally recommend a "don't believe the hype" and "try before you buy" approach to choosing technologies. Give them all a try and pick the one you prefer.</blockquote>

+1]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 14:40:11 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 14:40:11 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Sep 23, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Eelco Hillenius</jf:author>
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        <title>RSF advantages</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46943</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Aaron or Steven, what ("competitive") advantages do you see over Wicket or Tapestry approaches?</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 09:29:02 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 09:29:02 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Sep 22, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Aaron Zeckoski</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: minimal and clean designs</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46943</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>You may say so but my opinion is that designers are designers and HTML is code-ish. How on earth can I make a decent component that is also easy extendable while I let everybody fool around with my markup? I am telling you CSS covers 95% of...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 09:28:32 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 09:28:32 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Sep 22, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Antranig Basman</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: RSF (&quot;Reasonable Server Faces&quot;) version 0.7.2 released</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46943</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Aaron or Steven, what ("competitive") advantages do you see over Wicket or Tapestry approaches?]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 06:17:54 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 06:17:54 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Sep 22, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>jmarranz</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: God, no!</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46943</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Smart things such as Spring hardly kill a technology: stupidity could, instead.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:23:30 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:23:30 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Sep 21, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Thiago Concei????o</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: minimal and clean designs</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46943</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>IMHO, designer-friendliness is a crap shoot. </blockquote><br><br>I very much dislike the HTML that designers deliver, it is far from what can be called "clean". Designers should now their CSS and everything will be...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 09:31:38 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 09:31:38 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Sep 21, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Dennis Bekkering</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: RSF (&quot;Reasonable Server Faces&quot;) version 0.7.2 released</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46943</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Yes, IKAT can be used as a standalone renderer. Probably the most convenient packaging for this usage style is the SpringMVC integration where IKAT templating can be dropped in as a direct replacement for JSP/Velocity et. al. You can see a...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:09:02 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:09:02 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Sep 20, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Freddy Daoud</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: RSF (&quot;Reasonable Server Faces&quot;) version 0.7.2 released</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46943</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Hi Guys,<br><br>Congratulations on the RSF release. I just have a quick question: can IKAT be used on its own as a templating engine?<br><br>PS if this is already properly documented somewhere, feel free to post a link and I'll do my...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 20:13:43 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 20:13:43 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Sep 20, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Antranig Basman</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: minimal and clean designs</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46943</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>IMHO, designer-friendliness is a crap shoot. </blockquote><br><br>I very much dislike the HTML that designers deliver, it is far from what can be called "clean". Designers should now their CSS and everything will be...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:19:06 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:19:06 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Sep 20, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Konstantin Ignatyev</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: RSF (&quot;Reasonable Server Faces&quot;) version 0.7.2 released</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46943</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Hi Guys,

Congratulations on the RSF release. I just have a quick question: can IKAT be used on its own as a templating engine?

PS if this is already properly documented somewhere, feel free to post a link and I'll do my homework.

Many thanks.

Freddy]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 14:52:08 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 14:52:08 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Sep 20, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Freddy Daoud</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>2</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: minimal and clean designs</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46943</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>It's rare to see a dynamic web UI evolve as the result of both the web designer and the developer simultaneously working on the same artifacts.  Thus, concentrating on designer-friendliness in a templating or presentation...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 14:09:26 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 14:09:26 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 14:09:26 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Sep 20, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Ray Davis</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: minimal and clean designs</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46943</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>IMHO, designer-friendliness is a crap shoot. </blockquote><br><br>I very much dislike the HTML that designers deliver, it is far from what can be called "clean". Designers should now their CSS and everything will be...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 12:24:13 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 12:24:13 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Sep 20, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Antranig Basman</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>2</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: minimal and clean designs</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46943</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>It's rare to see a dynamic web UI evolve as the result of both the web designer and the developer simultaneously working on the same artifacts.  Thus, concentrating on designer-friendliness in a templating or presentation technology possibly...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 10:37:55 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 10:37:55 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Sep 20, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Antranig Basman</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: minimal and clean designs</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=46943</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I'm another RSF developer (just as a quick disclaimer)....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 10:16:17 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 20, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Steven Githens</jf:author>
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