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        <title>Re: Contradiction??? Yes everyone contradicts themselves....</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>The source is just not open if ONLY employee's of a commercial entity are awarded committer's right. </blockquote><br><br>You do not have to be an employee to be a contributor on any of our projects.  I'm sure I21 is the...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 05:00:03 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Oct 3, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Paul Beckford</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Don't spit into well - you may drink from it!</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=47062</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Hi Ross,...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 13:46:45 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <title>Re: Contradiction??? Yes everyone contradicts themselves....</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=47062</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>The source is just not open if ONLY employee's of a commercial entity are awarded committer's right. </blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 09:19:21 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Oct 2, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Bill Burke</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Don't spit into well - you may drink from it!</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=47062</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Hi Dmitriy,<br><br><blockquote>I think what we all seem to forget is that there is no Spring without Interface21. ...</blockquote><br><br>If this is truly the case then Rod Jonson and others should stop describing  Spring as community driven...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 04:50:15 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Oct 2, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Ross Mason</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Contradiction??? Yes everyone contradicts themselves....</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=47062</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>The source is just not open if ONLY employee's of a commercial entity are awarded committer's right. It's understandable if a commercial entity has a strict evaluation criteria before giving others (a requester) commit access; that would be...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 04:02:45 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Oct 2, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Ross Mason</jf:author>
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        <title>Can't know everything about everything</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=47062</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Another point is how to decide which support a customer should buy. E.g. an application uses GridGain, Spring, Struts, Mule, Hibernate, Log4j, JBoss, MySql (and maybe 20 more dependen OSS projects) - which support should be bought? And what...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 02:24:01 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Oct 2, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Dmitriy Setrakyan</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Contradiction??? Yes everyone contradicts themselves....</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=47062</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Open Source Businesses are NOT open cesspools for any wanna-be hacker to dump his crap in the code base. Maybe thats what Apache is for? </blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 15:50:04 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Oct 1, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Nikita Ivanov</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Contradiction??? Yes everyone contradicts themselves....</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=47062</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>So to sum up the quote -<br> Agreed, its not Open Business, but then is it Open Source either?</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 15:38:37 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Oct 1, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Roy Russo</jf:author>
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        <title>Contradiction??? Yes everyone contradicts themselves....</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=47062</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[As a end-user if find the direction that OSS is going .... surprising. ...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 13:26:25 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Oct 1, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Sameer Rao</jf:author>
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        <title>Contradiction?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=47062</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Why are these two guys bitching at each other so much?  Maybe its because their models are so similar?  Spring web flow and IoC aside, how is Spring's business model any different than SourceLabs?  Most of Spring is a thin value-add wrapper around...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 12:32:12 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Oct 1, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Bill Burke</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Don't spit into well - you may drink from it!</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=47062</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I've read Rod's blog and Rod was absolutely polite, Rod criticized OpenLogic's business/development model in a developer and client perspective, he never criticized why they are supporting Spring, of course he can't say "no one can offer Spring support...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 03:58:08 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Oct 1, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>jmarranz</jf:author>
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        <title>Free market economy</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=47062</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I can understand yours and Rod's argument about support and open source developers that have to be paid. The thing is that we have a free market economy and the market will regulate itself. Normally a company will first contact Interface21 for...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 03:46:12 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Oct 1, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Mirko Novakovic</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Don't spit into well - you may drink from it!</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=47062</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Hi Dmitriy,...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 02:40:29 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Oct 1, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Paul Beckford</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: You Paying for Open-Source Support?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=47062</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[So depends on the support........]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 01:51:37 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Oct 1, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Rob James</jf:author>
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        <title>Don't spit into well - you may drink from it!</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=47062</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I think what we all seem to forget is that there is no Spring without Interface21. Now, we all can argue that it's about developers, not the company, but in reality, Spring developers <b>must get paid</b> or the quality of software will start to fall...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 22:40:53 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 30, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Dmitriy Setrakyan</jf:author>
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