Support Forums: Message List - Tech Talk: Bob Lee on Google Guice http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Wed, 19 Jun 2013 21:47:22 -0400 PICO http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=47317 Sun, 11 Nov 2007 02:35:37 -0500 Sun, 11 Nov 2007 02:35:37 -0500 Sun, 11 Nov 2007 02:35:37 -0500 Nov 11, 2007 Guru Prasad 0 Re: Tech Talk: Bob Lee on Google Guice http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=47317 Still waiting for a Java IoC advocate to admit that the problem these frameworks address evaporates in other languages like Ruby, Smalltalk and Python...

But I guess that would be too much honesty to ask for :^)...]]> Thu, 01 Nov 2007 15:26:22 -0400 Thu, 01 Nov 2007 15:26:22 -0400 Thu, 01 Nov 2007 15:26:22 -0400 Nov 1, 2007 Cedric Beust 0 Re: Tech Talk: Bob Lee on Google Guice http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=47317
Still waiting for a Java IoC advocate to admit that the problem these frameworks address evaporates in other languages like Ruby, Smalltalk and Python...

But I guess that would be too much honesty to ask for :^)

Nit...]]> Mon, 29 Oct 2007 02:38:15 -0400 Mon, 29 Oct 2007 02:38:15 -0400 Mon, 29 Oct 2007 02:38:15 -0400 Oct 29, 2007 Paul Beckford 0 Re: Tech Talk: Bob Lee on Google Guice http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=47317 Still waiting for a Java IoC advocate to admit that the problem these frameworks address evaporates in other languages like Ruby, Smalltalk and Python...

But I guess that would be too much honesty to ask for :^)

Nit picking...]]> Sun, 28 Oct 2007 13:34:31 -0400 Sun, 28 Oct 2007 13:34:31 -0400 Sun, 28 Oct 2007 13:34:31 -0400 Oct 28, 2007 Bob Lee 1 Re: Tech Talk: Bob Lee on Google Guice http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=47317
The problem here IMO is that as always a simple idea as been oversold, and the Java IoC crowd haven't been that honest about explaining the problem IoC addresses and why it is needed.


In fairness I think that...]]> Sun, 28 Oct 2007 05:45:17 -0400 Sun, 28 Oct 2007 05:45:17 -0400 Sun, 28 Oct 2007 05:45:17 -0400 Oct 28, 2007 Paul Beckford 3 Re: I still don't see the point ... (repost after polish) http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=47317 taken ironically from the Spring 2.5 serverside tutorial
...]]> Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:59:56 -0400 Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:59:56 -0400 Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:59:56 -0400 Oct 26, 2007 Mark Fisher 0 Re: Tech Talk: Bob Lee on Google Guice http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=47317 The problem here IMO is that as always a simple idea as been oversold, and the Java IoC crowd haven't been that honest about explaining the problem IoC addresses and why it is needed....]]> Fri, 26 Oct 2007 16:58:59 -0400 Fri, 26 Oct 2007 16:58:59 -0400 Fri, 26 Oct 2007 16:58:59 -0400 Oct 26, 2007 Matt Giacomini 4 Re: I still don't see the point ... (repost after polish) http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=47317 Thu, 25 Oct 2007 23:20:54 -0400 Thu, 25 Oct 2007 23:20:54 -0400 Thu, 25 Oct 2007 23:20:54 -0400 Oct 25, 2007 Bob Lee 0 Re: I still don't see the point ... (repost after polish) http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=47317 Sorry, I am slow to fully understand this. It seems Guice does not bind by user specified IDs (or symbols) but by matching types of providers to declared types of injection references (input arguments), am I correct? How it is going to handle...]]> Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:07:24 -0400 Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:07:24 -0400 Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:07:24 -0400 Oct 25, 2007 Solomon Duskis 2 Re: I still don't see the point ... (repost after polish) http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=47317 You should check out this video. In it, I explain everything....]]> Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:58:11 -0400 Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:58:11 -0400 Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:58:11 -0400 Oct 25, 2007 Bob Lee 0 Re: I still don't see the point ... (repost after polish) http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=47317 Sorry, I am slow to fully understand this. It seems Guice does not bind by user specified IDs (or symbols) but by matching types of providers to declared types of injection references (input arguments), am I correct? How it is going to handle...]]> Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:56:13 -0400 Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:56:13 -0400 Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:56:13 -0400 Oct 25, 2007 Bob Lee 1 Re: I still don't see the point ... (repost after polish) http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=47317 Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:50:45 -0400 Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:50:45 -0400 Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:50:45 -0400 Oct 25, 2007 Ke Jin 5 Re: I still don't see the point ... (repost after polish) http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=47317 What I want to see is how and where you get the bar and tee. Spring has a way to do it (i forgot the name). Instead of writing a XML document, the wirings are write as Java code in a class with each member function corresponds to a element...]]> Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:30:54 -0400 Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:30:54 -0400 Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:30:54 -0400 Oct 25, 2007 Bob Lee 6 Re: Tech Talk: Bob Lee on Google Guice http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=47317
I don't really see this as the proper analogy, though. I don't think the argument is that people are using Spring for something that it is not meant for. If I understand William's point correctly, it's that the Spring framework...]]> Thu, 25 Oct 2007 14:36:28 -0400 Thu, 25 Oct 2007 14:36:28 -0400 Thu, 25 Oct 2007 14:36:28 -0400 Oct 25, 2007 James Watson 0 Re: Tech Talk: Bob Lee on Google Guice http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=47317
No. It isn't my argument. My entry into this thread was to address the fact that William brings Spring because one or more tools he's used/evaluated/looked at had, issues that I think were independent of Spring and were caused...]]> Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:46:07 -0400 Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:46:07 -0400 Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:46:07 -0400 Oct 25, 2007 David McCoy 1