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        <title>Re: JavaRebel 1.0 released, detects class changes for appservers</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=47771</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>but the challenges involved in implementing this have kinda scared me away.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:01:50 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 11, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Dennis Bekkering</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: JavaRebel 1.0 released, detects class changes for appservers</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=47771</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>Classloader A holds Seam components. When something changes in the Seam components or Seam configuration, we trash that classloader at the beginning of the request and restart Seam. This is actually very fast in practice, unless...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:01:32 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 11, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Gavin King</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: JavaRebel 1.0 released, detects class changes for appservers</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=47771</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Classloader A holds Seam components. When something changes in the Seam components or Seam configuration, we trash that classloader at the beginning of the request and restart Seam. This is actually very fast in practice, unless the...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:45:15 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 11, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>William H</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: JavaRebel 1.0 released, detects class changes for appservers</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=47771</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>it's a failing you're going to have to live with.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 08:51:19 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>Dennis Bekkering</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: JavaRebel 1.0 released, detects class changes for appservers</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=47771</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>In fact I think OO approach is very good on the GUI side while functional approach is very good for the business side. In the business layer it is more natural to work with data and thus OO approach gets clumsy....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 02:39:45 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 11, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Eelco Hillenius</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: JavaRebel 1.0 released, detects class changes for appservers</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=47771</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>... while functional approach is very good for the business side. In the business layer it is more natural to work with data and thus OO approach gets clumsy. And functional languages are really good at manipulating data....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 02:46:33 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 10, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Jevgeni Kabanov</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: JavaRebel 1.0 released, detects class changes for appservers</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=47771</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>... while functional approach is very good for the business side. In the business layer it is more natural to work with data and thus OO approach gets clumsy. And functional languages are really good at manipulating data. ...</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 11:41:05 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 9, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Mark N</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: JavaRebel 1.0 released, detects class changes for appservers</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=47771</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I'm sorry, now I'm confused. I thought we were discussing whether or not JavaRebel was a practical solution to the problem of rapid development in Java, using the technologies that most Java developers use today.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 04:13:50 -0500</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 04:13:50 -0500</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Dec 8, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Jevgeni Kabanov</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: JavaRebel 1.0 released, detects class changes for appservers</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=47771</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>Understood... The only question I have is why are you developing java related libraries?   Surely you must be doing the majority of your dev in c++ if you follow the GOF book so literally. ;)</blockquote><br>We are talking about...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 00:13:45 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 8, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Gavin King</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: JavaRebel 1.0 released, detects class changes for appservers</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=47771</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>Frameworks often break OO encapsulation to improve developer experience, but it is not always necessary.</blockquote><br><br>Well, it is never *necessary*, but it is certainly the best approach to certain problems such...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 00:11:23 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 8, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Gavin King</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: JavaRebel 1.0 released, detects class changes for appservers</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=47771</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>And Wicket is not a view definition technology, it's a fully-fledged web framework that rivals the same JSF/Seam.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 00:08:15 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 8, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Gavin King</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: JBoss Javassist</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=47771</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>Can JavaRebel run in production or this is just a development tool? Also what are the benefits of JavaRebel beyond of what Javassist from JBoss can provide <a href="http://www.csg.is.titech.ac.jp/~chiba/javassist/"...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 19:41:02 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>Sergey Sundukovskiy</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Understood... The only question I have is why are you developing java related libraries?   Surely you must be doing the majority of your dev in c++ if you follow the GOF book so literally. ;)</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 17:57:08 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>Jevgeni Kabanov</jf:author>
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        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=47771</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Understood... The only question I have is why are you developing java related libraries?   Surely you must be doing the majority of your dev in c++ if you follow the GOF book so literally.  ;)...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 17:46:31 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 7, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>jkuhnert</jf:author>
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        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=47771</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>Frameworks often break OO encapsulation to improve developer experience, but it is not always necessary.</blockquote><br><br>Well, it is never *necessary*, but it is certainly the best approach to certain problems such as...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 17:35:25 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 7, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Jevgeni Kabanov</jf:author>
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