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        <title>HTML templates</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[So does IT Mill Toolkit

(now called Vaadin).]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 05:12:55 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Oct 15, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>jole</jf:author>
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        <title>Making noise on Grails and Appcelerator</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=47824</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Just wanted to express what I think is going to be a common noise from the Grails crowd to support Appcelerator as a plug in...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 06:09:20 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jan 10, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Carl Garcia</jf:author>
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        <title>And Appcelerator....</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=47824</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I'll throw Appcelerator (<a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.appcelerator.org" target="_newWindow">http://www.appcelerator.org</a>) into the discussion too. Our latest release supports server-side programming in Java, but also Ruby, PHP,...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 11:46:24 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 20, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>jeremyporter</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Nice demos and implementation, but has fundamental probelms</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>The whole point of it is to run UI logic within the browser instead of making a roundtrip to the server. This provides the best response time to the user and that's the premise of Web 2.0.</blockquote>True enough, but the little extra you get...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 03:28:33 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 20, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Jouni</jf:author>
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        <title>HTML-based rendering</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=47824</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I'd like to add one more difference about HTML vs JavaScript:
ZK allows developers to use HTML-based template to design a component. It is a big plus for designing sophisticated components.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 21:21:34 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 18, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Fabrice Mustier</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Nice demos and implementation, but has fundamental probelms</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=47824</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Your points about standards are definitely valid. Standard is not a panacea. Your other points make sense too. And it seems to be in the line with what I'm saying. Which is:...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:16:38 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 17, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>koollx</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Nice demos and implementation, but has fundamental probelms</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Some reflections:...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 12:30:28 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 17, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>jmarranz</jf:author>
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        <title>Nice demos and implementation, but has fundamental probelms</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[I'm quite impressed by the demo and wanted to say that the guys have done a great job at coding the framework. But IMHO the whole approach has fundamental flaws that would limit its wide adoption:...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 11:06:46 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>koollx</jf:author>
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        <title>IceFaces</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[I'm using IceFaces (JSF) with Facelets for about a year, and I'm really impressed. It requires a higher learning curve from the start, but after that, to create the AJAX web user interfaces - it's a pleasure....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 08:31:43 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 16, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>m k</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Initial page based on X</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Jose, this is a really interesting classification: A) "Initial page based on HTML" vs B) "Initial page based on JavaScript". Even though the page probably changes a lot with Ajax calls, the "A"-type frameworks tend to be more "Web 1.0" and...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 05:07:37 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 16, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>jmarranz</jf:author>
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        <title>jZeno</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Dimitry, jZeno looks really interesting. The architectural approach looks to be very similar to Echo2 and IT Mill Toolkit 4.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 22:47:32 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 15, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>jole</jf:author>
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        <title>Initial page based on X</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Jose, this is a really interesting classification: A) "Initial page based on HTML" vs B) "Initial page based on JavaScript". Even though the page probably changes a lot with Ajax calls, the "A"-type frameworks tend to be more "Web 1.0" and "B"-type...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 22:22:16 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 15, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>jole</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: What about ZK?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=47824</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>No mention of ZK, which takes a similar, server-based,approach to RIA development?</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 11:06:18 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 15, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>jmarranz</jf:author>
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        <title>jZeno</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Also not mentioned was jZeno (<a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.jzeno.org" target="_newWindow">http://www.jzeno.org</a>). ...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 10:07:42 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 15, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Dimitry D'hondt</jf:author>
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        <title>ZK vs IT Mill Toolkit</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=47824</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I think that largest structural difference between IT Mill Mill Toolkit and ZK is that IT Mill Toolkit builds client-side on top of Google Web Toolkit. This allows easy creation of new widgets as well as easy use of existing GWT-widgets....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 09:56:40 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Dec 15, 2007</jf:date>
        <jf:author>jole</jf:author>
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