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        <title>best of both worlds</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[I think the ESB could satisfy both mindsets by doing as follows:...]]></description>
        

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        <title>What is common message model for an application?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Let us forget about XML, XSD,SOAP, WS for a minute....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:10:20 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <title>Re: Paul Fremantle: Reclaiming the ESB</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=47866</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>He says the central ESB team should not be made to know every data format and protocol, but rather each system or application team should make their data available using the common format.  I take this to mean that every team exposes services...]]></description>
        

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        <title>Interesting article</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=47866</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I agree with many of the points Paul makes.  It is refreshing to here someone wanting to make things simpler with well defined roles for the components in the enterprise infrastructure.

Jon Weaver
XAware Inc.]]></description>
        

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        <title>Re: Paul Fremantle: Reclaiming the ESB</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[I actually think Paul's main point is that the message formats ARE owned by the "ESB", but the transformations are not.  He states:...]]></description>
        

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        <title>Good article</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Nice short article with good points.  

Glad that the author pointed out where his company's product should fit in.  Tired of companies trying to sell SOA in a box and labeling it an ESB.]]></description>
        

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        <title>Re: Paul Fremantle: Reclaiming the ESB</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[I would definitely agree with this, especially the comment in the article that states that the need for an ESB is as "some runtime infrastructure that supports your SOA". I think that properly scopes the purpose of an ESB. And it encourages thinking in...]]></description>
        

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        <title>Paul Fremantle: Reclaiming the ESB</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=47866</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Paul Fremantle of <a href="http://wso2.org/projects/esb/java">WSO2</a> has written "<a href="http://wso2.org/library/2913">Reclaiming the ESB</a>," saying that "The single most important aspect of SOA is ownership. The point of a service provider ... is...]]></description>
        

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        <jf:author>Joseph Ottinger</jf:author>
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