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Mon, 23 Jul 2012 03:19:20 -0400

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Re: Teach a variety of languages

Tue, 15 Jan 2008 20:48:13 -0500

Java is great for teaching OO concepts, but not so great for teaching system programming or similar skills. Likewise, C (and arguably C++) are not as great for teaching OO concepts but are much better for teaching system programming, tight...

Computer Scientist, SW Engineer, SW Developer and Programmer

Tue, 15 Jan 2008 06:27:07 -0500

I disagree with being Java is damaging for students things, but I agree with that Java is not the system programming language - yet -. In the title I listed a set of roles related to the SW field. To create good computer scientists you don't need a...

Re: How to have your Cake and Eat it too

Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:10:43 -0500

I see your point, but electricians have to deal physical buildings. Software can be created once and cloned infinitely.

I think the "factory workers" and "mechanics" of enterprise software are system administrators, database...

Re: How to have your Cake and Eat it too

Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:13:10 -0500

On the other hand, by way of comparison, in my area of the US (New England) electricians are in much greater demand than electrical engineers. There is some truth to the original post that a lot of work out there just doesn't require the much...

Re: How to have your Cake and Eat it too

Mon, 14 Jan 2008 12:30:07 -0500

I do see your point of view. Its a difficult problem to determine if it is correct....

Cirriculums, professors at fault.

Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:54:45 -0500

I believe it's the curriculum and the professor's that are at fault. The same arguments could be made against C#, visual basic, etc........

Re: How to have your Cake and Eat it too

Mon, 14 Jan 2008 09:49:55 -0500

I think you may be confusing cause and effect here. Most "programmers" or "software developers" are not software engineers or computer scientists. They are people who picked up some software development skills either our of interest or more...

Re: How to have your Cake and Eat it too

Mon, 14 Jan 2008 08:42:10 -0500

Fundamentally, the professor needs to (re)examine a fact of life: there is currently greater need for software mechanics than software engineers.

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How to have your Cake and Eat it too

Sat, 12 Jan 2008 12:05:49 -0500

Fundamentally, the professor needs to (re)examine a fact of life: there is currently greater need for software mechanics than software engineers. Certainly the requirements for scientists in the field are narrow and highly demanding. A general purpose...

Re: Do schools even teach programming?

Fri, 11 Jan 2008 17:19:54 -0500

Schools teach students programming language syntax and language features but do schools teach students what constitutes good code, how to debug, how to refactor?

There is a difference between teaching how to program and teaching how to...

Agreed

Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:22:35 -0500

Agreed. Especially from a Liberal Arts school >=]

Re: apology

Fri, 11 Jan 2008 13:23:02 -0500

Hi Bill,

I'm sorry about the confusion. I wasn't quoting you in the post, but my coworker's email. My bad for not making that more explicit.

Not a problem Dmitry. I liked your "take" by the way.

Do schools even teach programming?

Fri, 11 Jan 2008 12:50:17 -0500

Schools teach students programming language syntax and language features but do schools teach students what constitutes good code, how to debug, how to refactor? There is a difference between teaching how to program and teaching how to be a programmer.

apology

Fri, 11 Jan 2008 12:25:51 -0500

Hi Bill, I'm sorry about the confusion. I wasn't quoting you in the post, but my coworker's email. My bad for not making that more explicit.