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        <title>Groovy is compiled not interpreted.</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I am told that it's important that JavaFX Script can be compiled, so Groovy would not be an optimal host.</blockquote>

Groovy is compiled not interpreted.

Am I missing something in what was meant there?]]></description>
        

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        <title>Re: java.sun.com interview: A Conversation With Cay Horstmann</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>For one thing, JSP is only the default rendering technology for JSF. It's the default because every servlet container is expected to have it, and that lowers the installation burden on the deployer. Blaming JSF because of JSP...]]></description>
        

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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>Whenever there's a failure, the mantra must be "File name, line number, file name, line number."</blockquote><br>This is exactly what the Tapestry does.<br>BTW, is there a WYSIWYG editor for JSF?</blockquote>More than one....]]></description>
        

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        <jf:author>Joseph Ottinger</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: The Stack Trace from Hell</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[It's good to see the JSF people finally moving away from JSP.  It was a sort of nice technology (I always preferred velocity-like template solutions more) back in the day but is woefully out of date when you have much more developer friendly solutions...]]></description>
        

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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Whenever there's a failure, the mantra must be "File name, line number, file name, line number."</blockquote>
This is exactly what the Tapestry does.
BTW, is there a WYSIWYG editor for JSF?]]></description>
        

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        <title>Re: The Stack Trace from Hell</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ROTFLMAO !!!

Grails buddy... Grails.]]></description>
        

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        <jf:author>Dushyanth Inguva</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: I don't care a jot about JSF, but:</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>"And graphic designers are probably not ready for Scala."<br><br>Er, right, hmm.  What programming languages are graphics designers ready for?  Are there examples of non-programmers successfully using Groovy or JavaFX Script?  At what point...]]></description>
        

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        <jf:date>Feb 23, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Cay Horstmann</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[Thanks, Joseph and Jason, for the comments.  I'll take a look at facelets first since we are running on JBoss.]]></description>
        

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        <title>The Stack Trace from Hell</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[I've had a long day of programming with JSF and the Woodstock components. Yes, it is high time for me to switch to Facelets on this project, and I'll be happier with the error reporting, as long as the error occurs in page markup. ...]]></description>
        

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        <jf:date>Feb 23, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Cay Horstmann</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA["And graphic designers are probably not ready for Scala."...]]></description>
        

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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>For one thing, JSP is only the default rendering technology for JSF. It's the default because every servlet container is expected to have it, and that lowers the installation burden on the deployer. Blaming JSF because of JSP...]]></description>
        

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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>For one thing, JSP is only the default rendering technology for JSF. It's the default because every servlet container is expected to have it, and that lowers the installation burden on the deployer. Blaming JSF because of JSP...]]></description>
        

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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>For one thing, JSP is only the default rendering technology for JSF. It's the default because every servlet container is expected to have it, and that lowers the installation burden on the deployer. Blaming JSF because of JSP ...</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

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            <description><![CDATA[Cay Horstmann, a computer science prof at San Jose State, <a href="https://java-champions.dev.java.net/">Java Champion</a>, and author of some respected books on JSF and Java in the enterprise makes some provocative points in an <a...]]></description>
        

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        <jf:date>Feb 22, 2008</jf:date>
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