Support Forums: Message List - Agile Software Development: True Adoption or Just a Label? http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Wed, 19 Jun 2013 05:07:59 -0400 Re: Just answer the question, for christ's sake! http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48548

I think I was unclear. I wasn't saying that the process or methodology has to explicitly define actions and results. I was saying that the project team has to act in ways consistent with the values and achieve results.

In my...]]> Thu, 06 Mar 2008 11:46:13 -0500 Thu, 06 Mar 2008 11:46:13 -0500 Thu, 06 Mar 2008 11:46:13 -0500 Mar 6, 2008 sun certified 0 Re: Just answer the question, for christ's sake! http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48548
In my opinion values and principles are necessary but not sufficient. You also need actions and results.


So what "actions" would you prescribe? Should the "actions" for a 1 man month project be the same as...]]> Wed, 05 Mar 2008 19:09:11 -0500 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 19:09:11 -0500 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 19:09:11 -0500 Mar 5, 2008 Erik Engbrecht 1 Re: Just answer the question, for christ's sake! http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48548 In my opinion values and principles are necessary but not sufficient. You also need actions and results. ...]]> Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:40:25 -0500 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:40:25 -0500 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:40:25 -0500 Mar 5, 2008 Paul Beckford 2 Re: Just answer the question, for christ's sake! http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48548
These would be the same projects. Depending on how you define "agile," they could be waterfall or agile.


People were doing Agile long before the word "Agile" was coined. The issue isn't how long...]]> Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:12:35 -0500 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:12:35 -0500 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:12:35 -0500 Mar 5, 2008 Paul Beckford 0 Re: Just answer the question, for christ's sake! http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48548
These would be the same projects. Depending on how you define "agile," they could be waterfall or agile.


People were doing Agile long before the word "Agile" was coined. The issue isn't how long each iteration...]]> Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:00:33 -0500 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:00:33 -0500 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:00:33 -0500 Mar 5, 2008 Erik Engbrecht 4 Dissapointed http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48548
the objective is to get answers to a specific question: "Agile Software Development: True Adoption or Just a Label?"


The answer is: It depends...

If Agile requires weekly production releases, then I...]]> Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:00:32 -0500 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:00:32 -0500 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:00:32 -0500 Mar 5, 2008 Paul Beckford 0 Re: Just answer the question, for christ's sake! http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48548 in a lot of ways, this thread itself demonstrates what happens most of the time on "Agile" projects. you start off with a specific objective; in the case of this thread, the objective is to get answers to a specific question: "Agile Software...]]> Wed, 05 Mar 2008 16:18:29 -0500 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 16:18:29 -0500 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 16:18:29 -0500 Mar 5, 2008 Paul Beckford 0 Re: Just answer the question, for christ's sake! http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48548 These would be the same projects. Depending on how you define "agile," they could be waterfall or agile.
...]]> Wed, 05 Mar 2008 15:55:00 -0500 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 15:55:00 -0500 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 15:55:00 -0500 Mar 5, 2008 Paul Beckford 5 Re: Just answer the question, for christ's sake! http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48548 the objective is to get answers to a specific question: "Agile Software Development: True Adoption or Just a Label?" ...]]> Wed, 05 Mar 2008 15:25:59 -0500 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 15:25:59 -0500 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 15:25:59 -0500 Mar 5, 2008 Erik Engbrecht 7 Re: Just answer the question, for christ's sake! http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48548 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 14:12:12 -0500 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 14:12:12 -0500 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 14:12:12 -0500 Mar 5, 2008 Steve Cresswell 0 Re: Just answer the question, for christ's sake! http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48548 it goes without saying what the point of a software development is Unfortunately, the situation is more like the point of software development projects often goes without being said, usually because no one knows what it is.]]> Wed, 05 Mar 2008 13:55:23 -0500 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 13:55:23 -0500 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 13:55:23 -0500 Mar 5, 2008 Erik Engbrecht 0 Just answer the question, for christ's sake! http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48548 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 13:00:37 -0500 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 13:00:37 -0500 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 13:00:37 -0500 Mar 5, 2008 sun certified 11 Re: Again http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48548 Objectives and priorities should to be determined before work is given to the technical team (that's not to say they can't change in subsequent iterations). If this is what you mean by decoupling then I don't understand why you find this...]]> Wed, 05 Mar 2008 11:39:37 -0500 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 11:39:37 -0500 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 11:39:37 -0500 Mar 5, 2008 Erik Engbrecht 0 Re: Again http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48548
2. The technical team have a single objective - to deliver valuable working software at the end of each iteration. The business team would be made up of people with different objectives (with financial reward for meeting them)....]]> Wed, 05 Mar 2008 04:42:18 -0500 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 04:42:18 -0500 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 04:42:18 -0500 Mar 5, 2008 Steve Cresswell 1 'agile' == 'green' http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48548 Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:31:15 -0500 Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:31:15 -0500 Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:31:15 -0500 Mar 4, 2008 the floidster 0