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        <title>HTML Layout only for windows</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48551</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I checked it out.  It appears that HTML layout works only on Windows.  So I would consider that pretty worthless for a web application.  Who would want to exclude Mac and Linux users right off the bat?]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 16:57:31 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Mar 4, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Douglass Parker</jf:author>
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        <title>What about Curl?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48551</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I have not used it yet, but what about Curl?  Although it is commercial, it looks really interesting.  Has anyone tried it?  If so, what did you think of it?]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 16:23:42 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Mar 4, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Douglass Parker</jf:author>
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        <title>Javascript is coming of age.. Java is becoming obscene</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48551</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Libraries like J-Query make it possible to script Ajax GUIs in a few hundred lines of code.. It totally dominates Swing, XUL, Flex, JSF, and JSP. It is breakthrough and people like John Resig and Douglas Crockford are the James Gosling's of today....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 17:27:47 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Mar 3, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Stephen Hyland</jf:author>
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        <title>Check out Microsofts WPF Browser Application</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48551</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[try out Visual Studio 2008 express edition. And create a new WPF/Avalon Browser Application. I'm more a Java guy but after a few hours of playing around with WPF (in C#) I had alot of fun.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:08:07 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Mar 3, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Jean-Daniel Gamache</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Is Flex &quot;open&quot;?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48551</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I thoguht Flex was controlled by Adobe.</blockquote>

The Flex SDK (components, compilers, debugger, and other tools) is <a href="http://opensource.adobe.com/wiki/display/flexsdk/Flex+SDK">now open source</a>.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:36:16 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 28, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>jlward4th</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Flex?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48551</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>But if we dream of client side language then it should not be XML based language and we will not need any other scripting language for client logic.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:33:20 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 28, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>jlward4th</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: Javascript is now vastly superior to Java</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48551</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>Javascript should be replacing Java. It is the premiere language with libraries like J-Query , Prototype, etc. changing the way the Web works. Let's hope Java dies a sudden and decisive death soon, and languages like Javascript...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:22:44 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 28, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>yujun liang</jf:author>
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        <title>Does your application really need to be browser based?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48551</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[How many of the applications being written today actually require a browser based client? Browsers and HTTP have many limitations that I don't need to elaborate on here. But how many projects have we worked on that would be much better served by using...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:10:08 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 28, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>John Murray</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: HTML: too old? Javascript passé? Should there be something n</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48551</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I do not think any language is old. Yes lot of factors do effect in the progress of a language including applicable architecture, marketing, easiness, usability, acceptability by popular vendors, design etc. etc. etc....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 12:34:27 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 28, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Harimohan Bawa</jf:author>
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        <title>OpenLaszlo?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48551</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Im always replying to these sort of discussions with "OpenLaszlo"....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 08:23:56 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 28, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Brian Sayatovic</jf:author>
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        <title>Is Flex &quot;open&quot;?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48551</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Is "Flex" open?  HTML isn't controlled by one company (you can argue Microsoft).  I thoguht Flex was controlled by Adobe.  I don't think any one commerical entity will be able to control the next "big thing".]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 08:16:37 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 28, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Brian Sayatovic</jf:author>
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        <title>Why do people want complicated...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48551</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[...seriously, I never understood, why people are deperately trying to throw away the simple interaction model of HTML to create something "better". ...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 07:27:49 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 28, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Karl Banke</jf:author>
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        <title>Incorporating learnings</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48551</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[A more productive question would be: How do we incorporate the learnings in order to make a language evolve?...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 07:15:52 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 28, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Yves Bossel</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Seam + JSF</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48551</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[How about Applets instead? just kidding!

Eduardo Sasso
<a class="jive-link-external" href="http://openjobs.com.br" target="_newWindow">http://openjobs.com.br</a>]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 07:07:37 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 28, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Eduardo Sasso</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: HTML: too old? Javascript passé? Should there be something n</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48551</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>@Joseph Ottinger: Hmm. It's not an entirely new idea - see XUL for a similar thought about addressing the browser as a base platform, although XUL relies on Javascript as well.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 04:58:22 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Feb 28, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>jmarranz</jf:author>
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