Support Forums: Message List - 12 Things You Should Know About REST Web Services and WOA http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Sat, 25 May 2013 21:19:21 -0400 Re: 12 Things You Should Know About REST Web Services and WOA http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48990 Totally agree with William's point of view.

The Article has its points. It is totally clear that there is a confusion of what actually SOA means (still the old misconception of SOA = Web Services and WSDL is the demon in lingerie) and...]]> Sun, 13 Apr 2008 08:45:53 -0400 Sun, 13 Apr 2008 08:45:53 -0400 Sun, 13 Apr 2008 08:45:53 -0400 Apr 13, 2008 rebecca20 0 Re: Why the cynicism? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48990 Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:39:01 -0400 Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:39:01 -0400 Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:39:01 -0400 Apr 11, 2008 William Martinez 0 Re: Why the cynicism? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48990
I think REST is a much more solid platform than SOAP and WS*


I am not sure this is entirely true. And I do not believe it is the right question. The right question is probably: Is REST superior (in general) to...]]> Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:55:01 -0400 Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:55:01 -0400 Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:55:01 -0400 Apr 10, 2008 James Watson 1 Re: Why the cynicism? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48990
If anyone suggests something like a standard machine readable document for defining a rest interface vaguely similar to what WSDL provides but much, much better, a restafarian will invariably go apeshit because REST does 'need'...]]> Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:43:26 -0400 Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:43:26 -0400 Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:43:26 -0400 Apr 10, 2008 James Watson 0 Re: Why the cynicism? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48990 I think REST is a much more solid platform than SOAP and WS*
...]]> Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:00:50 -0400 Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:00:50 -0400 Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:00:50 -0400 Apr 10, 2008 Karl Banke 2 Re: Why the cynicism? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48990 If anyone suggests something like a standard machine readable document for defining a rest interface vaguely similar to what WSDL provides but much, much better, a restafarian will invariably go apeshit because REST does 'need' anything like...]]> Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:18:18 -0400 Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:18:18 -0400 Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:18:18 -0400 Apr 10, 2008 William Martinez 1 Re: Hey Kool-aid! (crash) http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48990 http://hinchcliffe.org/archive/2008/02/27/16617.aspx...]]> Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:09:12 -0400 Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:09:12 -0400 Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:09:12 -0400 Apr 10, 2008 George Coller 0 Re: 12 Things You Should Know About REST Web Services and WOA http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48990 Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:07:25 -0400 Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:07:25 -0400 Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:07:25 -0400 Apr 10, 2008 William Martinez 1 Hey Kool-aid! (crash) http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48990 When IBM has TV commercials featuring buzzword bingo as the punchline, you know it's reached critical mass....]]> Thu, 10 Apr 2008 13:55:33 -0400 Thu, 10 Apr 2008 13:55:33 -0400 Thu, 10 Apr 2008 13:55:33 -0400 Apr 10, 2008 George Coller 1 Re: 12 Things You Should Know About REST Web Services and WOA http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48990 Now some people think that SOA as they perceive it may be overkill for some applications where my perception is that people are often confusing the technology they're using with the style. Nevertheless, it is true that what the author...]]> Thu, 10 Apr 2008 13:19:39 -0400 Thu, 10 Apr 2008 13:19:39 -0400 Thu, 10 Apr 2008 13:19:39 -0400 Apr 10, 2008 James Watson 2 Re: 12 Things You Should Know About REST Web Services and WOA http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48990 Perhaps WOA has approaches that are outside of those that SOA has but that's means there's an intersection, where neither is a superset of the other. This claim and others make me feel that this author doesn't really understand...]]> Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:55:21 -0400 Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:55:21 -0400 Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:55:21 -0400 Apr 10, 2008 William Childers 5 Re: 12 Things You Should Know About REST Web Services and WOA http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48990 One of the things about this article that seems not only like BS but just plain wrong is this claim that WOA (the definition of which is unclear to me) is a super set of SOA....]]> Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:34:44 -0400 Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:34:44 -0400 Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:34:44 -0400 Apr 10, 2008 James Watson 0 Re: 12 Things You Should Know About REST Web Services and WOA http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48990 Some of us were practicing what is now called SOA in the early and mid-nineties....]]> Thu, 10 Apr 2008 11:52:35 -0400 Thu, 10 Apr 2008 11:52:35 -0400 Thu, 10 Apr 2008 11:52:35 -0400 Apr 10, 2008 James Watson 7 Re: 12 Things You Should Know About REST Web Services and WOA http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48990 Thu, 10 Apr 2008 10:24:35 -0400 Thu, 10 Apr 2008 10:24:35 -0400 Thu, 10 Apr 2008 10:24:35 -0400 Apr 10, 2008 William Childers 8 Re: Why the cynicism? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=48990
The backlash against REST and Web 2.0 on this thread is surprising.


The backlash is probably more against bullshit bingo than against anything else. As for REST (btw. What *is* Web 2.0 other than what whoever...]]> Thu, 10 Apr 2008 09:36:31 -0400 Thu, 10 Apr 2008 09:36:31 -0400 Thu, 10 Apr 2008 09:36:31 -0400 Apr 10, 2008 James Watson 5