Support Forums: Message List - Responses to "Java is losing the battle for the ... web"... http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Wed, 19 Jun 2013 07:54:24 -0400 Re: Too Much Freedom a Bad Thing? http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49018

-persistence,
-security,
-PDF, Mail generation,
-events,
-RESTful style,
-remoting,
-web services,
-testing,
-also logging! this is a good example, look at the @Logger annotation.
-more...

The...]]> Thu, 17 Apr 2008 05:35:10 -0400 Thu, 17 Apr 2008 05:35:10 -0400 Thu, 17 Apr 2008 05:35:10 -0400 Apr 17, 2008 Dan Kaplan 0 Re: reply to Berry Crawford http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49018 Hi Berry,
What you mentioned the most important two things, are key factors on how to make engineers doing their job easier, not the key rules on how to make applications get better performance, while the latter is just the most important...]]> Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:02:14 -0400 Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:02:14 -0400 Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:02:14 -0400 Apr 15, 2008 Berry Crawford 0 Re: Web Frameworks http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49018
it.


I don't get it, please define your definition of RC functionalities. Do you consider a button that will shine after being clicked RC functionality?

Complex userinteractionw without page...]]> Tue, 15 Apr 2008 10:52:33 -0400 Tue, 15 Apr 2008 10:52:33 -0400 Tue, 15 Apr 2008 10:52:33 -0400 Apr 15, 2008 rebecca20 0 reply to Berry Crawford http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49018 Tue, 15 Apr 2008 06:10:49 -0400 Tue, 15 Apr 2008 06:10:49 -0400 Tue, 15 Apr 2008 06:10:49 -0400 Apr 15, 2008 Johnson Hou 1 Re: GWT http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49018 Mon, 14 Apr 2008 10:26:14 -0400 Mon, 14 Apr 2008 10:26:14 -0400 Mon, 14 Apr 2008 10:26:14 -0400 Apr 14, 2008 Miguel Ping 0 Re: Web Frameworks http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49018 it.

I don't get it, please define your definition of RC functionalities. Do you consider a button that will shine after being clicked RC functionality?...]]> Mon, 14 Apr 2008 09:07:58 -0400 Mon, 14 Apr 2008 09:07:58 -0400 Mon, 14 Apr 2008 09:07:58 -0400 Apr 14, 2008 Werner Punz 1 Re: Web Frameworks http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49018
So you think people are more comfortable with silverlight and flash stuff right? Ask people how comfortable they are with online banking or any mission critical UI using flash/silverlight?

HTML applications are at last...]]> Mon, 14 Apr 2008 08:53:59 -0400 Mon, 14 Apr 2008 08:53:59 -0400 Mon, 14 Apr 2008 08:53:59 -0400 Apr 14, 2008 rebecca20 2 Focus on the runtime infrastructure not the syntax http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49018 Java : if (compete with PHP / Ruby / Python) { stop fixing the syntax and start fixing the runtime }...]]> Mon, 14 Apr 2008 08:15:10 -0400 Mon, 14 Apr 2008 08:15:10 -0400 Mon, 14 Apr 2008 08:15:10 -0400 Apr 14, 2008 dnene 0 GWT http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49018 Flash and Silverlight are poised to be the big winners, unless Sun hopefully takes action soon and improves the unimpressing Java FX.
...]]> Mon, 14 Apr 2008 05:13:15 -0400 Mon, 14 Apr 2008 05:13:15 -0400 Mon, 14 Apr 2008 05:13:15 -0400 Apr 14, 2008 Hans Westerbeek 1 Re: Web Frameworks http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49018 So you think people are more comfortable with silverlight and flash stuff right? Ask people how comfortable they are with online banking or any mission critical UI using flash/silverlight?

HTML applications are at last third of its...]]> Mon, 14 Apr 2008 02:40:31 -0400 Mon, 14 Apr 2008 02:40:31 -0400 Mon, 14 Apr 2008 02:40:31 -0400 Apr 14, 2008 Werner Punz 3 Re: JSP http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49018
start with pure JSP today, and you can keep adding things until you are at the enterprise level or anywhere in between.


That sounds like a nightmarish perscription for spaghetti code hell....]]> Sun, 13 Apr 2008 18:51:30 -0400 Sun, 13 Apr 2008 18:51:30 -0400 Sun, 13 Apr 2008 18:51:30 -0400 Apr 13, 2008 arjan tijms 0 Re: JSP http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49018 start with pure JSP today, and you can keep adding things until you are at the enterprise level or anywhere in between. That sounds like a nightmarish perscription for spaghetti code hell.]]> Sun, 13 Apr 2008 18:30:14 -0400 Sun, 13 Apr 2008 18:30:14 -0400 Sun, 13 Apr 2008 18:30:14 -0400 Apr 13, 2008 Berry Crawford 1 Response to arjan http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49018 Sun, 13 Apr 2008 18:26:03 -0400 Sun, 13 Apr 2008 18:26:03 -0400 Sun, 13 Apr 2008 18:26:03 -0400 Apr 13, 2008 Berry Crawford 0 Re: JSP http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49018
Just stuff everything on that JSP page, interweave some HTML markup in there and be done with it.


There are a couple of issues here. First of all, your mention of pure JSP as Java's solution for the low end...]]> Sun, 13 Apr 2008 17:35:01 -0400 Sun, 13 Apr 2008 17:35:01 -0400 Sun, 13 Apr 2008 17:35:01 -0400 Apr 13, 2008 arjan tijms 3 Spring MVC http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49018 Sun, 13 Apr 2008 17:13:14 -0400 Sun, 13 Apr 2008 17:13:14 -0400 Sun, 13 Apr 2008 17:13:14 -0400 Apr 13, 2008 Ralf Grossens 2