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    <title>Support Forums: Message List - Billy Newport on S2AP: very nice, shame about the license</title>
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        <title>Re: clarification</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49320</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>... it's funny, I get crap from both sides. The Spring guys typically think I'm anti-Spring, and the non-Spring guys think I'm pro-Spring. I can't win. :)</blockquote>

You obviously swing both ways Joe :-)

-John-]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 20:28:05 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 20:28:05 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>May 12, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>John Davies</jf:author>
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        <title>Bollox!</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49320</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[If you're running a small software business how the hell are you going to make any money from giving away free software under Apache license?  Of course you can provide services but that's not scalable, margins are tight, competition is tough and your...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 20:13:19 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 20:13:19 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>May 12, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>John Davies</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: Where is the subversion repository?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49320</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>I am more concerned about the fact that the source for S2AP is not available through a public subversion repository. That the current JIRA is clearly only containing end-user support questions and that the source is only...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 23:40:52 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 23:40:52 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 23:40:52 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>May 10, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Stefan Arentz</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: Where is the subversion repository?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49320</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I am more concerned about the fact that the source for S2AP is not available through a public subversion repository. That the current JIRA is clearly only containing end-user support questions and that the source is only distributed through...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 17:26:24 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 17:26:24 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 17:26:24 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>May 10, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Bill Burke</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>1</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: clarification</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49320</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Oops sorry, I thought you are the marketing manager of SpringSource ;)</blockquote>I really hope you don't mean that, even though I suppose you could... it's funny, I get crap from both sides. The Spring guys typically think I'm anti-Spring,...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 11:23:38 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 11:23:38 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 11:23:38 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>May 9, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Joseph Ottinger</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>1</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: clarification</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49320</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Heh, whoa, wait: I don't work for IBM, nor have I for some ten years - and I have never been employed, directly or indirectly, by SpringSource. I don't know what working with Rod is like. :)</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 02:40:18 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 02:40:18 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 02:40:18 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>May 9, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Mohammad wrk</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>2</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: clarification</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49320</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Heh, whoa, wait: I don't work for IBM, nor have I for some ten years - and I have never been employed, directly or indirectly, by SpringSource. I don't know what working with Rod is like. :)]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 01:01:18 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 01:01:18 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 01:01:18 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>May 9, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Joseph Ottinger</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>3</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: clarification</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49320</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>btw, do u work for IBM, or did u once?</blockquote>Are you asking ME? If you are, yes, I worked for IBM as a contractor for a while in Charlotte, NC (beautiful campus, BTW) on a product called ProductManager, basically a revision...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 23:43:13 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 23:43:13 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 23:43:13 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>May 8, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Mohammad wrk</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>4</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: Validation</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49320</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Rod...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 21:37:41 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 21:37:41 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 21:37:41 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>May 8, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Billy Newport</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: Validation</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49320</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>To quote from Billy's blog:<blockquote>I’d like to see a commercial friendly licensed OSGi distributed runtime as the new JVM that vendors build middleware/profiles for. Given, Spring DM is Apache licensed, I can see...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 20:01:55 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 20:01:55 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 20:01:55 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>May 8, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>peter lin</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: Validation</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49320</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>To quote from Billy's blog:<blockquote>I’d like to see a commercial friendly licensed OSGi distributed runtime as the new JVM that vendors build middleware/profiles for. Given, Spring DM is Apache licensed, I can see the extra...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 19:37:28 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 19:37:28 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 19:37:28 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>May 8, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Rob Harrop</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>1</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: Validation</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49320</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>To quote from Billy's blog:<blockquote>I’d like to see a commercial friendly licensed OSGi distributed runtime as the new JVM that vendors build middleware/profiles for. Given, Spring DM is Apache licensed, I can see the extra work in the...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 18:52:05 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 18:52:05 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 18:52:05 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>May 8, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>peter lin</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>2</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: clarification</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49320</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Are you kidding? No. I've never worked at an IBM shop. If you look at my post history you'll see some pro-JBoss stuff from a few years back....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 17:58:34 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 17:58:34 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 17:58:34 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>May 8, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Steve Lewis</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Validation</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49320</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[To quote from Billy's blog:<blockquote>I’d like to see a commercial friendly licensed OSGi distributed runtime as the new JVM that vendors build middleware/profiles for. Given, Spring DM is Apache licensed, I can see the extra work in the Spring server...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 15:29:36 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 15:29:36 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 15:29:36 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>May 8, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Rod Johnson</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>4</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: J1</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49320</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Joe, <br><br>R u in SFO?  Is the conference in the new wing of Moscone?  I have not been there since '03, and miss the bean bags in the lounge, as well as McNealy on Friday morning keynotes, but all good things must come to an end, so I have...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 13:10:33 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 13:10:33 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 13:10:33 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>May 8, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Joseph Ottinger</jf:author>
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