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        <title>Clueless</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49409</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[First of all, you don't know me or how many languages I use on a daily basis. So, if you typically make such rash conclusions, based on little to no knowledge, why would anyone hire an old dinosaur like you? You obviously missed my point, which was...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:56:58 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jun 14, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>rdgrimes</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Making Java Easier</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49409</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>If Sun would integrate their excellent visual solution into Eclipse it will probably give a big push to the entire platform.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 07:12:38 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 07:12:38 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>May 21, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Jess Holle</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Assuming Everyone Came from C++</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49409</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I forgot one other obstacle to getting into Java. It's not so much true now, but I remember looking into Java when it was fairly new. Within the first five years of Java's creation, it seemed EVERY book assumed that you were coming from a...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 20:33:10 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>May 20, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>David McCoy</jf:author>
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        <title>Don't be a Scala-wag!</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49409</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[The performance of Groovy is leaping tall buildings my friend. Check out the release notes of the latest version: <a class="jive-link-external"...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 16:53:28 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 16:53:28 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>May 20, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>John Loebach</jf:author>
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        <title>I disagree with some stuffs</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49409</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[If a boy with 15 y. old can build one big, large, escalable, distribuited, multiplataform web application...We dont have job ! What about all SUN certifications ? The main issue are that builds big, large, escalable, distribuited, multiplataform aren't...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 14:47:26 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>May 20, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Fernando Franzini</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Learn Groovy first.</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49409</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Most of these problems will be resolved by OSGI in Glassfish V3.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 14:11:22 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>May 20, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Dan Kaplan</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Java API is complicated too</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49409</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Not only bad tools (GUI designer, Application servers without GUI, etc..) but API of pure Java is compicated....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 06:19:33 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>May 20, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Richard Malaschitz</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>I am developing a matisse-like builder plugin for eclipse.</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49409</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[SUN made big progress presenting NetBeans 5.1 Web Pack, and NetBeans 6x. The IDE provides a powerful solution for visual web form designing, and a visual Swing designer which can easily compete with the Microsoft Visual Studio IDE. Unfortunately,...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 03:13:27 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>May 20, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>William Chen</jf:author>
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        <title>Assuming Everyone Came from C++</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49409</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I forgot one other obstacle to getting into Java. It's not so much true now, but I remember looking into Java when it was fairly new. Within the first five years of Java's creation, it seemed EVERY book assumed that you were coming from a C/C++ world....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 18:50:23 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>May 19, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>rdgrimes</jf:author>
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        <title>Feeling Like You have to Know It All</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49409</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA["I think one consequence of this is that some people here may not be able to empathise what its like for a new developer to go from novice to experienced in the java world."...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 18:38:39 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>May 19, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>rdgrimes</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Making Java Easier</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49409</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I've moved from Unix C to Unix C++ to VC++ to Java. The Holy Grail of ease may be something that the world will never truly find. VB was supposed to be it, but during my VC++ days(and early java days) we spent time moving projects from the...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 18:20:34 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>May 19, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Mark N</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Making Java Easier</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49409</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I've moved from Unix C to Unix C++ to VC++ to Java. The Holy Grail of ease may be something that the world will never truly find. VB was supposed to be it, but during my VC++ days(and early java days) we spent time moving projects from the...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 18:20:33 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>May 19, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Mark N</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Making Java Easier</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49409</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>It should be more and more obvious to others that the issue/train jumping isn't a fault of the language, but of the APIs put forth.</blockquote><br><br>Agreed.  Taking someone who is new to Java and getting...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 16:11:35 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>May 19, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>David McCoy</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Making Java Easier</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49409</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[One more point about this issue:...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 14:34:34 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>May 19, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Berry Crawford</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Making Java Easier</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=49409</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>It should be more and more obvious to others that the issue/train jumping isn't a fault of the language, but of the APIs put forth.</blockquote><br><br>Agreed.  Taking someone who is new to Java and getting them up to...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 14:13:30 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>May 19, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Berry Crawford</jf:author>
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