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        <title>Re: Class.forName()?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50477</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Just look at the code. Class.forName(String) delegates to Class.forName(String, boolean, ClassLoader)]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 03:47:00 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 03:47:00 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Sep 3, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Harangus Andrei</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Spring jobs claims</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50477</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Wow, big transition from the claims on TSS to a full-fledged press release:...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 02:17:12 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 02:17:12 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Sep 3, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>douglas dooley</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Does Spring violate JEE spec?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50477</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Repeating two perspectives on this I have heard lately, one, that the divide between the framework/DSL (Domain Specific Language) provider and the user is bug not a feature, two, that components/libraries are much easier to design and evolve...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 10:46:17 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 2, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>James Watson</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Does Spring violate JEE spec?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50477</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I agree completely at a conceptual level but I would refine it a little.  The thing that has always bothered me about EJB (and any number of other 'trust the vendor' tools) wasn't so much that they limit what you can do in certain contexts...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 07:32:03 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 07:32:03 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 07:32:03 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Sep 1, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>art src</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>1</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: Agree and disagree</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50477</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 07:15:17 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 07:15:17 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Sep 1, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>art src</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: EJB3 Session Beans</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50477</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>The spec says that a Stateless Session Bean is not allowed to be a subclass of <b>anything</b>.</blockquote><br>Just to clarify what the specs says:<br>The session bean class may have superclasses and/or...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 23:58:02 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 23:58:02 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 23:58:02 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Aug 31, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Rajiv Narula</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Does Spring violate JEE spec?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50477</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Yes.

Moving on ...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:44:25 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:44:25 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:44:25 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Aug 29, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Ethan Allen</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: No. Should be &quot;Does Spring rape EJB spec?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50477</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>Wouldn't be more proper to say:<br><br>Does Spring rapes JEE spec?</blockquote><br><br>No. Should be "Does Spring rape EJB spec?</blockquote>

Better yet, "Does Spring rape the EJB spec"?]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 03:50:47 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 29, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>arjan tijms</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>No. Should be &quot;Does Spring rape EJB spec?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50477</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Wouldn't be more proper to say:<br><br>Does Spring rapes JEE spec?</blockquote>

No. Should be "Does Spring rape EJB spec?]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:11:36 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Aug 28, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>George Jiang</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>1</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: Class.forName() caching</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50477</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>The problem with Class.forName() is that it has the side effect of caching the results. In some environments, the same classname may exist multiple times, such as in an OSGi environment.<br><br>This means that your...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:29:17 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:modificationDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:29:17 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Aug 28, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>James Watson</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: Wow! One night over and tons of useless messages!</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50477</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>As I read this post yesterday (without any comments) I asked myself I there would be some people having enough time to investigate - to write really useful and profounded answers. But all I found this morning is a boring and useless...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:12:08 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:12:08 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Aug 28, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>James Watson</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>nothing to see here, move along sir...</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50477</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Geez this thread is pointless. We all know Spring is ok, and Spring AS is failure. Next please.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 05:20:53 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 05:20:53 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 05:20:53 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Aug 28, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Chief Thrall</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: Class.forName() caching</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50477</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>The problem with Class.forName() is that it has the side effect of caching the results. In some environments, the same classname may exist multiple times, such as in an OSGi environment.<br><br>This means that your second call to...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 04:08:06 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 04:08:06 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 04:08:06 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Aug 28, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Allard Buijze</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>2</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Wow! One night over and tons of useless messages!</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50477</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[As I read this post yesterday (without any comments) I asked myself I there would be some people having enough time to investigate - to write really useful and profounded answers. But all I found this morning is a boring and useless discussion about...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 03:21:59 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:modificationDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 03:21:59 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Aug 28, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Marco Missfeldt</jf:author>
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        <title>Evolution</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50477</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I think rules are valuable until we don’t have to break them. After it we need new rules which are responsible to our needs. After a while new rules will be some old conventions. What is J2EE? It contains some tools which developed based on rules and...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 00:59:29 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 00:59:29 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 00:59:29 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Aug 28, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Amir Sedighi</jf:author>
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