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        <title>Re: new build system?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50655</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Here are some points:...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 03:27:01 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 22, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Yves Martin</jf:author>
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        <title>Expressiveness for filesystem tasks</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50655</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[One thing sometimes found lacking in both Maven and Ant is the limitation of Ant Path expressions for specifying directories and files....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:28:34 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:28:34 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Sep 16, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Keith Bishop</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: new build system?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50655</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>For those that really love Ant and want a real project model with re-usable target, I'm working on a build system designed as a Ant build.xml generator: <a href="http://el4ant.sourceforge.net/"...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 05:08:47 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 16, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Vitaliy Semochkin</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: new build system?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50655</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[For those that really love Ant and want a real project model with re-usable target, I'm working on a build system designed as a Ant build.xml generator: <a class="jive-link-external" href="http://el4ant.sourceforge.net/"...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 11:44:29 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 15, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Yves Martin</jf:author>
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        <title>Raven and Maven</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50655</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[How do you compare this and maven ?
What is the advantages I would gain using Raven over Maven ?

Deepal
<a class="jive-link-external" href="http://blogs.deepal.org" target="_newWindow">http://blogs.deepal.org</a>]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 10:58:55 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 15, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Deepal Jayasinghe</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: new build system?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50655</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[+1

Yes, Maven is a bit harder to learn than ant but it is the best solution on the market.

raven sounds like reinventing the wheel, and IMHO the wheel isn't very round ;-)]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 10:45:06 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 15, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Vitaliy Semochkin</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>4</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: new build system?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50655</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 12:08:27 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 13, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Joubin Houshyar</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Build Java Projects with Raven</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50655</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Don't forget GANT]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 10:25:39 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 13, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Maris Orbidans</jf:author>
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        <title>sorry for the lousy code paste</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50655</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[try this:
<a class="jive-link-external" href="http://pastie.org/271353" target="_newWindow">http://pastie.org/271353</a>]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:14:31 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 12, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Phil Swenson</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Build Java Projects with Raven</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50655</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Few comments....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:12:05 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 12, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Phil Swenson</jf:author>
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        <title>new build system?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50655</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Guys, what would you think about discussing a new build system, one that used something closer to english to build things, and one that sort of did the thing correctly?...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:24:37 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 12, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Joseph Ottinger</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Build Java Projects with Raven</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50655</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I'm using Maven 2, because everyone else has drunk the kool-aid and it's a pain to do dependency management manually now. Yes, I'm looking at you, jackrabbit maintainers. If only looks could kill... you screwed up EVEN THE MAVEN DEPENDENCIES...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:08:26 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 12, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Daniel Gredler</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Build Java Projects with Raven</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50655</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><br><br>Dependency management is what's killed Ant for me, and I don't see evidence that Raven supports dependencies in a Maven-like fashion.<br><br>And yes, Ant fans, I know about Ivy.</ul></blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 11:07:33 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 12, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Justin Lee</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Build Java Projects with Raven</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50655</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Raven's pretty neat. <br><br>The problems as I see them:<ul><li>Ruby's expressiveness is great. But... I keep thinking there's a DSL out there that doesn't involve Ruby syntax... </blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 11:05:40 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 12, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Justin Lee</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Build Java Projects with Raven</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50655</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I have to maintain a messy ant file, and I cannot oblige other devs to download raven/gant/whatever and set up a environment variable. I would like an ant task that enables me to run raven tasks in a self-contained way....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 08:38:14 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 12, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Miguel Ping</jf:author>
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