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        <title>Re: No problem with Wicket</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50834</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I would say naming a class based on the underlying framework it depends on is way out-of-line</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 04:01:48 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 04:01:48 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Oct 12, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Eelco Hillenius</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: No problem with Wicket</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50834</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[And people say TSS is dead! :)]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 03:58:54 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 03:58:54 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Oct 10, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Taylor Gautier</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: No problem with Wicket</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50834</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I think we've talked this into the ground and I don't think I will convince you.</blockquote>

Yep.

At least we agree that naming classes and methods is something that should be taking seriously :-)]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 15:33:29 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 15:33:29 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Oct 9, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Eelco Hillenius</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: No problem with Wicket</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50834</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>It's all arbitrary of course, like any naming is. I feel that naming is important, so I guess I have to backtrack and agree with you that this issue is important enough to keep bringing up :-) Look, the thing that really matters when you name...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 11:38:35 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 11:38:35 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 11:38:35 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Oct 9, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>James Watson</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: No problem with Wicket</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50834</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Would you support prefixing all concrete types with 'C' or all abstract types with 'A' and perhaps we should add a second letter 'I' for inner, 'N' for nested, 'L' for local 'T' for top-level and then we can add 'PU' for public and 'PK' for...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 01:32:39 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Oct 9, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Eelco Hillenius</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Are All Stateful Web Applications Broken?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50834</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Flash scope...Conversation scope...Flow scope</blockquote>
Just because a framework allows a developer to avoid dealing directly with HttpSession or ServletContext, doesn't mean that it's solved the general issues presented in the article.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 13:32:38 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 13:32:38 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Oct 7, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>kschneid</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: No problem with Wicket</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50834</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>It's either a matter of taste, or you think that many people, including yours truly, are plain wrong :-)</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:48:43 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:48:43 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Oct 6, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>James Watson</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>5</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: No problem with Wicket</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50834</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I don't want to get into a fight or anything but I think that it's not just a matter of taste.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 16:04:29 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 16:04:29 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Oct 3, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Eelco Hillenius</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: No problem with Wicket</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50834</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>Of course, having to deal with every interface name starting with "I" is worse than any potential concurrency issue! ;-)</blockquote><br><br>Kris - <a...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 13:48:31 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Oct 3, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>James Watson</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>7</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: Are All Stateful Web Applications Broken?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50834</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Hmmm...can't see any reference to Spring Webflow here, so here goes....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 19:19:33 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Oct 2, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>greg matthews</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>1</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: Scoped services</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50834</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Actually, this still isn't a problem for Seam because Seam can use outjection. When a method is called on a bean that has another bean injected, if the injected bean is marked for outjection it is pushed back out to the session when the method ends. This...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 15:25:14 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 15:25:14 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Oct 2, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Andy Gibson</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: No problem with Wicket</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50834</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>Of course, having to deal with every interface name starting with "I" is worse than any potential concurrency issue! ;-)</blockquote><br><br>Kris - <a href="http://javathink.blogspot.com/2007/07/ifoo-or-just-foo.html">couldn't...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 12:07:04 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 12:07:04 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 12:07:04 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Oct 2, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Eelco Hillenius</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>8</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: No problem with Wicket</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50834</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Of course, having to deal with every interface name starting with "I" is worse than any potential concurrency issue! ;-)</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 09:17:23 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 09:17:23 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 09:17:23 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Oct 1, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>James Watson</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: Atomicity failure vs Visibility Failure</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50834</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I don't see the difference between the definitions of atomicity failure and visibility failure as mentioned by the author. <br><br>"    * An atomicity failure, where one thread is updating multiple data items and another thread reads the data...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 09:14:14 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 09:14:14 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Oct 1, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>James Watson</jf:author>
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        <title>Atomicity failure vs Visibility Failure</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=50834</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I don't see the difference between the definitions of atomicity failure and visibility failure as mentioned by the author. ...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 07:00:01 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 07:00:01 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 07:00:01 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Oct 1, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Adeel Ali</jf:author>
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