http://www.theserverside.com Most recent forum messages en Jive Forums Silver 5.5.30 (www.jivesoftware.com) Wed, 22 May 2013 20:42:34 -0400 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=51265 In fact, SOA is just another word for good component design, and really is nothing new. But that's my view, no doubt others will have a different slant on it....]]> Tue, 28 Oct 2008 03:31:36 -0400 Tue, 28 Oct 2008 03:31:36 -0400 Tue, 28 Oct 2008 03:31:36 -0400 Oct 28, 2008 Pradeep LN 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=51265 I think if you take REST literally (and most zealots do of course) it is more object oriented when you identify an object with a resource. With this in mind, you can think of an rest environment as a bunch of objects you can send messages...]]> Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:48:26 -0400 Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:48:26 -0400 Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:48:26 -0400 Oct 27, 2008 James Watson 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=51265 I don't think that REST or SOAP is more OO than the other. Architecturally, the approaches have only subtle differences. I think people think differently about them which may be what you are pointing to.

REST is superior in my mind...]]> Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:46:36 -0400 Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:46:36 -0400 Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:46:36 -0400 Oct 27, 2008 Karl Banke 1 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=51265 What I meant was that SOAP-based SOA implementations seem to have more in common with the thinking behind procedural programming, while the RESTful approach seems to be more more object-oriented.

SOAP and WSDL put the emphasis on the...]]> Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:32:38 -0400 Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:32:38 -0400 Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:32:38 -0400 Oct 27, 2008 James Watson 2 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=51265 Very misleading couple of sentences here.

SOA cannot be an approach "of any kind" to web services, SOA is not web services, the "S" in SOA stands for "service", not for "web services".
It is valid to say that SOA is a methodology...]]> Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:14:12 -0400 Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:14:12 -0400 Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:14:12 -0400 Oct 27, 2008 Ian Hlavats 3 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=51265 Not sure if you are agreeing with me or not, but to clarify I am saying that SOA is just another term for good design and therefore is effectively useless and means nothing.

But, to be honest, if it keeps me in a job, then I welcome it...]]> Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:01:17 -0400 Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:01:17 -0400 Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:01:17 -0400 Oct 27, 2008 James Watson 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=51265 Mon, 27 Oct 2008 09:15:44 -0400 Mon, 27 Oct 2008 09:15:44 -0400 Mon, 27 Oct 2008 09:15:44 -0400 Oct 27, 2008 Justin Phillips 1 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=51265 In fact, SOA is just another word for good component design, and really is nothing new.This is a completely useless definition. What's next, SOCC - Service Oriented Cancer cure, which is just another word for good cancer...]]> Mon, 27 Oct 2008 06:37:41 -0400 Mon, 27 Oct 2008 06:37:41 -0400 Mon, 27 Oct 2008 06:37:41 -0400 Oct 27, 2008 Bostjan Dolenc 2 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=51265 Mon, 27 Oct 2008 06:21:03 -0400 Mon, 27 Oct 2008 06:21:03 -0400 Mon, 27 Oct 2008 06:21:03 -0400 Oct 27, 2008 Justin Phillips 4 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=51265 Sat, 25 Oct 2008 01:13:25 -0400 Sat, 25 Oct 2008 01:13:25 -0400 Sat, 25 Oct 2008 01:13:25 -0400 Oct 25, 2008 Edgardo Hernandez 9 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=51265 I find it interesting that you mention the term Process-Oriented Architecture to describe SOA.

It occurred to me that SOA is a procedural approach to web services.

By the same token, I think REST is an object-oriented approach...]]> Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:12:23 -0400 Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:12:23 -0400 Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:12:23 -0400 Oct 24, 2008 James Watson 0 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=51265 Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:36:43 -0400 Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:36:43 -0400 Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:36:43 -0400 Oct 24, 2008 Ian Hlavats 11 http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=51265 Service Oriented Architecture with Java I decided to read another SOA-book of Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:21:31 -0400 Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:21:31 -0400 Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:21:31 -0400 Oct 24, 2008 Jack541108 12