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        <title>ZK and Spring Web Flow Integration</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Hi Keith,...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 19:40:55 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 4, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Henri Chen</jf:author>
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        <title>Script Faces</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=51504</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[&lt;a href='javascript:/* Start Script Faces */...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 23:34:15 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>Alex Ander</jf:author>
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        <title>Why not just use Seam pageflow</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Why not just use Seam pageflow instead? It's much more natural to JSF. *sigh* Spring doesn't provide overall solution to JSF unlike Seam.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 19:39:36 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Oct 30, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Joshua Partogi</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Introduction to Spring Faces Part 1</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=51504</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Spring Faces is a very good initiative....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:50:12 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Oct 30, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Faro G</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Jump the shark</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=51504</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I know it's optional. It still surprised me to see Spring support JSF given that you were the one who poked great big holes through J2EE way back in the Expert One-on-One book. JSF seems similar to J2EE in that regard, i.e. a lot of hoopla...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 21:25:55 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Oct 29, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>George Jiang</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Unfair criticism</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=51504</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>What I like about JSF is the clean MVC2 design, stable API, extensibility, large number of third-party UI component libraries, and more.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:15:01 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Oct 29, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>greg matthews</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Unfair criticism</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=51504</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Ian,<br><br>A bit off topic here...<br><br>Curious... What tools do you use with Dreamweaver for JSF development. I am also interested in the tools which work for both CS3 and CS4 releases of DW.<br><br>Thanks,<br>Yaakov.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:13:41 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Oct 29, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Ian Hlavats</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Unfair criticism</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Ian,

A bit off topic here...

Curious... What tools do you use with Dreamweaver for JSF development. I am also interested in the tools which work for both CS3 and CS4 releases of DW.

Thanks,
Yaakov.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:08:48 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Oct 29, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Yaakov Chaikin</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Unfair criticism</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=51504</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I use Dreamweaver and the Adobe tools and still fail to see how JSF is ever going to look any good compared to the alternatives.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:31:41 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Oct 29, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Ian Hlavats</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Jump the shark</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=51504</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I know it's optional. It still surprised me to see Spring support JSF given that you were the one who poked great big holes through J2EE way back in the Expert One-on-One book. JSF seems similar to J2EE in that regard, i.e. a lot of hoopla...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 07:07:22 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Oct 29, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Joseph Ottinger</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Jump the shark</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Greg<br><br>You don't <i>need</i> to use JSF with Spring Web Flow.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:32:06 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Oct 28, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>greg matthews</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Jump the shark</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Hi Greg,...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:02:58 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Oct 28, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Keith Donald</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Jump the shark</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Greg...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:47:31 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Oct 28, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Rod Johnson</jf:author>
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        <title>Jump the shark</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=51504</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I think Spring Source have jumped the shark by going anywhere near JSF....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:14:46 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Oct 28, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>greg matthews</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Introduction to Spring Faces Part 1</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=51504</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[For me, Hibernate + ZK + Spring is the best MVC design pattern.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 08:00:38 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Oct 28, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Ichiro Hashiya</jf:author>
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