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        <title>Re: Is Sun's Salvation in . . . Hardware?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Sun just announced to lay off between 15% and 18% of their staff (5,000 - 6,000) and to re-organize their software group.  Rich Green, former Exec VP of the Software group, is leaving Sun....]]></description>
        

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        <title>Re: Is Sun's Salvation in . . . Hardware?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=51825</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I wish IBM buys SUN.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 10:32:22 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>William Childers</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Is Sun's Salvation in . . . Hardware?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=51825</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I wish IBM buys SUN. I have been tracking SUN stock since 2-3 years ago and it has always lost the cap....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 21:42:02 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 13, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Siamak Sarmady</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Is Sun's Salvation in . . . Hardware?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=51825</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>A low market cap doesn't force anyone to sell a company</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 18:07:31 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 13, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Karsten Silz</jf:author>
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        <title>sold?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=51825</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Sun will be bought by IBM or Oracle to better compete with Microsoft.  Purchasing Sun includes MySQL now.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:20:47 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 13, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Arbi Sookazian</jf:author>
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        <title>Sun's Startup Essentials Program Is Not Pervasive Enough</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=51825</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[If Sun wanted to be saved from financial ruin, I would think that it would be more aggressive in trying to get as much servers, software, and services, out of inventory as fast as possible.  ...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 12:04:25 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 13, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Douglas Allen</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Is Sun's Salvation in . . . Hardware?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>How is that different from IBM, HP and Oracle?</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 11:50:12 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 13, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>William Childers</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Talk about salvation - Sun may have to sell itself or some of its assets since its market cap is plummeting.  :-(</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 04:54:31 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>Wille Faler</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Is Sun's Salvation in . . . Hardware?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Sun has been too product focused instead of solution focused.  They cannot maintain an edge in servers or operating systems when commoditization is the norm and economies of scale are the necessary to compete.  Even middleware is becoming...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 00:32:25 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>Ryan de Laplante</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Is Sun's Salvation in . . . Hardware?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Sun missed the boat on middleware and services.  They bought some decent middleware products but they've been terrible about building a brand for them or marketing them coherently as solutions instead of neat tools.  They haven't developed a robust...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:51:09 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>William Childers</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[They also have 2 billion in cash.  They could buy back stock but I doubt they will....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:42:26 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>James Watson</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[Talk about salvation - Sun may have to sell itself or some of its assets since its market cap is plummeting.  :-(...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:29:51 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 12, 2008</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Karsten Silz</jf:author>
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        <title>It has been for years</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=51825</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Hardware and a reasonably decent OS is about the only thing Sun are any good at these days. They were in the early 90s what Apple is today, innovative leaders with sexy technology, like SGI....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 11:34:38 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>John Davies</jf:author>
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            <description><![CDATA[I hope so.  I think that maybe what makes Sun a good steward of Java is that they've not tried to make much money off of it directly.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 10:05:44 -0500</pubDate>

        

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            <description><![CDATA[Maybe there’s something about unconventional office space that gets Silicon Valley’s creative juices flowing....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 08:43:33 -0500</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Nov 12, 2008</jf:date>
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