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        <title>Java Needs a Cloud Profile</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=54256</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[For anyone who actually cares about it today, I've written <a href="http://blogs.sun.com/webmink/entry/java_needs_a_cloud_profile">a long blog post</a> explaining my position.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 13:07:36 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 20, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Simon Phipps</jf:author>
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        <title>Leaving it just to Google is the mistake - we need Java WE</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=54256</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Agreed, Google will likely improve this situation over time. And to be clear, I am delighted they are supporting the Java platform, growing the opportunity for all of us....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 16:43:31 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 17, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Simon Phipps</jf:author>
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        <title>Early view</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=54256</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Let's not forget this is an early view of Java for the appengine.  I wouldn't be too surprised of the white list would be expanded over time.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:07:43 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 17, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Thomas Auzinger</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Single Page Interface?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=54256</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Better use the catchy marketing name, RIA, for such apps.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 09:19:25 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 09:19:25 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Apr 17, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>jmarranz</jf:author>
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        <title>Single Page Interface?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=54256</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<i>I think the Single Page Interface will be the next paradigm in <b>web</b> programming</i>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 08:47:06 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 08:47:06 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Apr 17, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>tasos zervos</jf:author>
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        <title>go after Groovy?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=54256</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<i>Are they going to go after Groovy because it relaxes Java script and ban it from the Java platform?</i>

Are you forgetting JSR-223 (Scripting for the JavaTM Platform) and JSR-241 (The Groovy Programming Language)?]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 08:31:04 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 17, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>tasos zervos</jf:author>
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        <title>What Google is doing is interesting</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=54256</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[What Google is doing is interesting.  They are creating a version of Java that compiles to Javascript.  It is one of the most interesting uses of Java out there.  If Sun wins no one will be able to release a Java implementation before years of...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 08:01:43 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 17, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Nichol DRaper</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Sun's Open Source Boss Slams Google App Engine</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=54256</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Clarification: "Furthermore sticky sessions highly reduce the traffic in this kind of applications" 

I mean "reduce data traffic between servers in the cluster to keep in sync sessions with very much data"]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 13:38:48 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 16, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>jmarranz</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Sun's Open Source Boss Slams Google App Engine</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=54256</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I agree with Simon Phipps, the white list is TOO SHORT....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 12:58:23 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 16, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>jmarranz</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Sun's Open Source Boss Slams Google App Engine</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=54256</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[People are repeating that the missing classes are those as per EBJ's security context, but somebody has already pointed out that Image etc is missing as well. This is not tolerable from my point of view (most of the interest about webapps for me is for...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 11:08:54 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 16, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Fabrizio Giudici</jf:author>
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        <title>This is what Java security is for</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=54256</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Google should just use a custom Java policy file to restrict access to API methods they do not wish to be invoked. Go-Daddy has similar restrictions on their web apps and I believe they use the Java SecurityManager to enforce their restrictions. Using a...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 17:06:52 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 15, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Aaron Anderson</jf:author>
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        <title>This is what Java security is for</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=54256</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Google should just use a custom Java policy file to restrict access to API methods they do not wish to be invoked. Go-Daddy has similar restrictions on their web apps and I believe they use the Java SecurityManager to enforce their restrictions. Using a...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 17:06:24 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 15, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Aaron Anderson</jf:author>
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        <title>This is what Java security is for</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=54256</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Google should just use a custom Java policy file to restrict access to API methods they do not wish to be invoked. Go-Daddy has similar restrictions on their web apps and I believe they use the Java SecurityManager to enforce their restrictions. Using a...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 17:05:57 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 15, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Aaron Anderson</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Sun's Open Source Boss Slams Google App Engine</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=54256</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Aren't these restrictions almost the same as the ones defined by EJB specification to achieve scalability and security (<a href="http://java.sun.com/blueprints/qanda/ejb_tier/restrictions.html"...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 15:11:19 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 15, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>augustientje bloem</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Sun's Open Source Boss Slams Google App Engine</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=54256</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>Please correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding of cloud computing is raising the abstraction to a higher level so that development teams can focus on application logic rather than system logic.</blockquote><br><br>The cloud...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 14:58:52 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Apr 15, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>augustientje bloem</jf:author>
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