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        <title>SOA &quot;Most Despised Buzzword&quot;</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.infoq.com/news/2006/11/soa-despised-buzzword" target="_newWindow">http://www.infoq.com/news/2006/11/soa-despised-buzzword</a>]]></description>
        

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        <title>Re: SOA beyond the hype</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=54976</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>There is already a standard definition of SOA...  <br><br>My understanding is that Thomas Erl's books on the subject are considered to be authoritative at least in defining what SOA is.</blockquote><br><br>Huh?</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

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        <jf:author>James Watson</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: SOA beyond the hype</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=54976</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[...The CTO IS telling you what he or she knows, with his or her decisions......]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 04:58:31 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jun 21, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Dieter Lange</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: SOA beyond the hype</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=54976</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>There is already a standard definition of SOA...  <br><br>My understanding is that Thomas Erl's books on the subject are considered to be authoritative at least in defining what SOA is.</blockquote>

Huh?]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 04:16:33 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <title>Re: SOA beyond the hype</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=54976</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>James,<br><br>You keep talking about misconceptions of SOA. Does that mean that your definition is the right one?</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 19:51:48 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>James Watson</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: SOA beyond the hype</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=54976</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[James,...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 11:45:26 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <title>Re: SOA beyond the hype</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=54976</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I would answer that we do not need to have meaningful discussions about SOA.  <br><br>It doesn't make a particle of difference to an organization what SOA is or is not.  What matters is whether what they are doing works for them.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 20:36:52 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>James Watson</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: SOA beyond the hype</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=54976</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>James, <br><br>You might be interested in reading <a href="http://soa-eda.blogspot.com" target="_blank">my blog</a> on the subject. There are some articles addressing exactly the issues you pose. My advice is to not get frustrated. Make your...]]></description>
        

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        <title>Re: SOA beyond the hype</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>... Again, there are realities to deal with ... and one of them is that the CTO may well know something you do not.<br><br>Well, part of this "superclass" knowledge might be the kind of insight sovereigns claim w.r.t. their subjects or a...]]></description>
        

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        <title>Re: SOA beyond the hype</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote>Let's stop arguing about what SOA is or is about.  Let's try to get the picture complete and respect focus on aspects.</blockquote><br><br>How can we have meaningful discussions about SOA if we can't agree on what it is?  The...]]></description>
        

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        <title>Re: SOA beyond the hype</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[James, ...]]></description>
        

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        <title>Re: SOA beyond the hype</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=54976</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Let's stop arguing about what SOA is or is about.  Let's try to get the picture complete and respect focus on aspects.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:02:36 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <title>Re: SOA beyond the hype</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[In order to communicate you need a phone, that is technology, made with tools....]]></description>
        

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        <title>Re: SOA beyond the hype</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[... Again, there are realities to deal with ... and one of them is that the CTO may well know something you do not....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 03:13:57 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <title>Re: SOA beyond the hype</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=54976</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Success of SOA adoption in an organization is not all based on what kind of tools an organization is purchasing from the IT vendor or what kind of IT standards, frameworks etc an organization support ...</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

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        <jf:author>Ethan Allen</jf:author>
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