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        <title>Re: Better than Smalltalk?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=55185</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>You said Java was a great improvement on Smalltalk. I'd like to see you justify that comment.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 07:15:47 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 23, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Andrew McVeigh</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Try Groovy Instead</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=55185</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>I was faced with exactly the same issues you mentioned in your article.<br>Have you tried Groovy? It pretty much covers all the issues you talked about.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 03:19:02 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 03:19:02 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jul 23, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Mario Fusco</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: 10 good reasons to look for something better than Java</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=55185</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>My name is Lucas, I'm from Brazil.<br>I want to translate your text into Portuguese.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 03:13:19 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 23, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Mario Fusco</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: 10 good reasons to look for something better than Java</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=55185</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Hello Mario!

My name is Lucas, I'm from Brazil.
I want to translate your text into Portuguese.

Can I do this?]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:50:01 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:50:01 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:50:01 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Jul 22, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Lucas Caton</jf:author>
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        <title>Rolf Tollerud</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=55185</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote><b>I'd really rather have Rolf Tollerud back than this crap.</b></blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 18:18:14 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 18:18:14 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jul 22, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Stefan Zobel</jf:author>
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        <title>Please Keep Java Language Stable</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=55185</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[To live longer, stability is very important. When adding new features into the Java language, it is necessary to be conservative. I'm already unhappy with Java 1.5 language  features. New languageg features add a very big deal of complexity to the...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 10:25:55 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 10:25:55 -0400</jf:creationDate>
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        <jf:date>Jul 22, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Sdf Sdf</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Try Groovy Instead</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=55185</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Hi,...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 04:49:47 -0400</pubDate>

        

        <jf:creationDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 04:49:47 -0400</jf:creationDate>
        <jf:modificationDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 04:49:47 -0400</jf:modificationDate>
        <jf:date>Jul 22, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Stephan Dhaene</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>1</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: Better than Smalltalk?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=55185</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Tony,...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 03:55:48 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 22, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Yuri Vrancken</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Autoboxing Bugs in Scala</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=55185</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I've been looking at Scala during my summer vacation.  Lovely language, would be much easier to teach than Java.  However, the problems and bugs in Java do seem to leak through Scala as well.  For example, you can easily get autoboxing bugs in the latest...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 02:17:22 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 22, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Heinz Kabutz</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Number 5 is not an issue</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=55185</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[That was a poor example in the article. I think he was meaning more that you can't create a generic array using the template parameter. So, if your class includes a parameter, e.g....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:03:31 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 21, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Tony Weddle</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Better than Smalltalk?</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=55185</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[You said Java was a great improvement on Smalltalk. I'd like to see you justify that comment. As a former Smalltalk practitioner, I watched two companies shift to Java. In neither case was there a solid technical argument for the shift; it was more to do...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:47:34 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 21, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Tony Weddle</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>2</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Number 5 is not an issue</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=55185</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:47:02 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 21, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Chris Worley</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>1</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Funny, these wouldn't be my grievances</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=55185</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Yes, there are some issues, some legacy, some addressable... but frankly, these do not significantly hurt my productivity. I just do not see ANY competing language/platform that can give me the breadth. From a productivity point of view, I think posting...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 09:31:32 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 20, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Eoin O'Toole</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Re: Bad reasons</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=55185</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>1) Personally, I could live 10 years without closures. I coded millions of lines. I felt like I neded them only ONCE. I think people talk much more about on closures than they'd use it.</blockquote>...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 10:18:27 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 17, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Mario Fusco</jf:author>
        <jf:replyCount>0</jf:replyCount>
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        <title>Bad reasons</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=55185</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[<blockquote>The thing is that all of the listed problems really only have a marginal effect on overall productivity when you consider the entire development lifecycle./blockquote&gt;...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:24:59 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Jul 17, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Fab Mars</jf:author>
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