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        <title>Re: Test Driven Scaffolding: a new agile method</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[It won't work for the general case. The way I see tests in TDD is that they serve as some sort of requirements for the program. That's why you write them first: I want the program to do this and that. Then you write the implementation that would fulfill...]]></description>
        

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        <jf:author>Sergiu Rata</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Test Driven Scaffolding: a new agile method</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=57443</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[The idea is definitely creative, but seems amateur.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 19:53:51 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 16, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Albert Mendonca</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Test Driven Scaffolding: a new agile method</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=57443</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I don't really see how this would reduce the amount of code you're actually writing.  Either you write test cases that are sufficient to handle literally all possible inputs and scenarios, plus sufficiently intelligent templates to process all of the...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 16:34:10 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 7, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Andy Key</jf:author>
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        <title>Not enough information</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=57443</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[I would love to make it easier to keep tests and code in sync, but I think your idea misses an important point: there is not enough information in a test case to be able to provide an implementation....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 01:27:51 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 7, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Bruce Atherton</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Deduction vs Induction</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=57443</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[And that said, I don't see how could your tests generated program be capable of handling other (more general) situations than that given by the written tests.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 20:59:36 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 6, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Charles Abreu</jf:author>
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        <title>Deduction vs Induction</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=57443</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[My view is that, when programming, one goes from specific examples to general concepts. It is an inductive, synthesis task. In testing, on the other hand, one goes from generic concept to specific examples. It is a deductive, analysis task. There is no...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 20:49:47 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 6, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Charles Abreu</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: writing only tests == writing only code</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Hi James,...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 06:45:10 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 6, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>senthil balakrishnan</jf:author>
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        <title>writing only tests == writing only code</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[If you only write the tests, then there's no cross-control on your code and the generated code will only be as good as your "tests are"....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 17:14:13 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 4, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Amin Mansuri</jf:author>
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        <title>Good question</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=57443</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[B_G,...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 11:10:17 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 4, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>James Perry</jf:author>
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        <title>Good idea : what does is it do more than what Eclipse does</title>
        <link>http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=57443</link>

        

        
            <description><![CDATA[Let us take the classic TDD use case where developer writes test case first.  At the end of the exercise the test case will be a non compiling class.  For example :...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 01:49:20 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:date>Sep 4, 2009</jf:date>
        <jf:author>Boni Gopalan</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Test Driven Scaffolding: a new agile method</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Please feel free to elaborate. IMO it's achievable as the ontological model (template engine) is deterministic as you program the relevant logic to produce the test driven scaffold....]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 22:25:33 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>James Perry</jf:author>
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        <title>Re: Test Driven Scaffolding: a new agile method</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[Interesting. Not sure however if this can be done with reasonable effort.]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 17:52:00 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>Istvan Soos</jf:author>
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        <title>Test Driven Scaffolding: a new agile method</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[The next evolution of Test Driven Development. Test Driven Scaffolding (TDS) is an idea I propose to improve development productivity by declaratively generating source code from unit tests by holistically merging the benefits of  Test Driven Development...]]></description>
        

        <pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 10:09:12 -0400</pubDate>

        

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        <jf:author>James Perry</jf:author>
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